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SCOD: Charging in a blur!

Xanaseb
Tol Eressea


Feb 20 2013, 1:41pm

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Hello people! Chose this rather off-kilter shot, as LOTR is not of course all crisp-perfect-idealistic in its appearance.

1. Do you agree that blurred shots like these can give a sense of realism to the scene? Does the skirmish between the Rohirrim and the Warg riders feel real to you?

2. With this in mind, discuss HFR and its type of realism compared to that of blurred photography like this. (LOTR vs Hobbit anyone?Wink)

3. Comment on the features of this shot.

4. Furtther thoughts?

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(This post was edited by Xanaseb on Feb 20 2013, 1:43pm)


Tigero
Rivendell


Feb 20 2013, 7:57pm

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You can't talk about motion blur with just snaphots of a scene [In reply to] Can't Post

But yes, of course blur adds realism, even our eyes have an 'exposure time' of sorts, you notice it when it's dark and you move your eyes fast while looking at lights. Well i guess it has something to do with your receptors staying stimulated but the effect is the same.

I have been thinking about an option to this motion blur and fps dilemma that if material with so high framerate that motion is almost 'really there' with no motion blur would be fed to our eyes, would our eyes fill the motion blur up for ultimate realism? Who knows.

I guess that in the end 48fps looks more realistic but that doesn't mean it looks better and you can't say realism is one of main values of a movie like The Hobbit. For me the places where 48fps really failed where slow mo shots, they just looked wrong with that ultra-high-definition motion, they were completely difrent to say some Lorien scenes from LOTR.

Something that i didn't understand about this warg attack scene is that why aren't our heroes having helmets on (exept Gimli), being a $wag like Haldir can be fatal... Wink

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zarabia
Tol Eressea


Feb 25 2013, 5:42am

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1. Do you agree that blurred shots like these can give a sense of realism to the scene? Does the skirmish between the Rohirrim and the Warg riders feel real to you?

I don't remember it looking blurred in the film; I guess my eyes compensated. Some of the battle worked, but other bits looked very CGI. The stunt where Legolas grabbed the bridle of his horse as it passed and jumped on was fun, but it always bugged me. If the mechanics or physics or whatever had been accurate, it would have worked. The imaging in this case was convincing, but the actual movement seemed off.


2. With this in mind, discuss HFR and its type of realism compared to that of blurred photography like this. (LOTR vs Hobbit anyone?Wink)

Haven't seen TH Frown or its HFR so I can't comment.


3. Comment on the features of this shot.

Viggo is really committed. His intensity is very convincing.

4. Furtther thoughts?


This scene isn't my favorite, but I guess I'm not as bothered by it as some people seem to be.

Thanks Xanaseb! Hope things are going well at school Smile

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(This post was edited by zarabia on Feb 25 2013, 5:44am)

 
 

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