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What if you were in Thorinīs situation (Spoilers)

Marionette
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Feb 19 2013, 5:49pm


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Itīs very easy to judge, but I am wondering so, what was the right thing to do being Thorin considering the whole background and everything affecting him..

1- What about Bilbo taking the Arkenstone for him, knowing that it was everything Thorin wanted in the first place. Wasnīt it a betrayal? Why people think it was not... it was.
2-Probably the only mistake from him was to not allow Bard to have part of his treasure. Some men were the rightful owners of the treasure as well.
3-He had the dragon illness and for me it doesnīt take reasons out of his behavior, that doesnīt make of him a jerk, all the people there had greed for the treasure, but suddenly everybody made him feel betrayed.

I would have been exactly like him, if you ask me. Everytime I read the book I think so.


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What if you were in Thorinīs situation (Spoilers) Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 19 2013, 5:49pm
    Yes, I think it's complicated utku Send a private message to utku Feb 19 2013, 6:07pm
        I can see why Thorin felt betrayed Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 19 2013, 10:46pm
    Yeah CathrineB Send a private message to CathrineB Feb 19 2013, 6:45pm
    I would give Bard his part of the treasure little mouse Send a private message to little mouse Feb 19 2013, 6:56pm
        Dwarves can turn violent Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 19 2013, 9:57pm
    This is what makes him interesting Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 19 2013, 7:12pm
        Aragorn had flaws? Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 19 2013, 10:42pm
            Fully agree about that Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 20 2013, 11:10pm
    I'd like to say... Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 19 2013, 7:42pm
        I would have done the same too. ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 19 2013, 8:04pm
    Nope, he's a jerk stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 19 2013, 7:49pm
        I've said this before... macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 19 2013, 8:02pm
        There is a dragon illness macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 19 2013, 8:06pm
            So? stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 19 2013, 8:26pm
                Why? macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 19 2013, 8:39pm
                Thorin is admittedly a much more attractive character in the film but... ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 19 2013, 8:49pm
                I think it's a bit more complex than that. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 19 2013, 9:23pm
                    I see shades of grey here Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 19 2013, 9:33pm
                        *pffffffffftt* Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 19 2013, 10:30pm
                    Well said, everyone should read this post. // macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 19 2013, 9:59pm
                    The situation is, oh gosh, complicated! Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 19 2013, 10:09pm
                    Being angry is not just cause for murder. stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 19 2013, 10:47pm
                        No, of course not. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 20 2013, 2:15am
                            not only does he not toss him Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 20 2013, 2:53am
                                Wow! Gelir Send a private message to Gelir Feb 20 2013, 12:07pm
                                    My thoughts entirerly macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 12:33pm
                                        Agreed Gelir Send a private message to Gelir Feb 21 2013, 1:35pm
                                    I've always defended Thorin, Gelir....... ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 20 2013, 1:00pm
                                        Couldn't agree more Gelir Send a private message to Gelir Feb 21 2013, 1:44pm
                                It doesn't take much stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20 2013, 1:10pm
                                    I dont think imin Send a private message to imin Feb 20 2013, 3:18pm
                                    How is "descendant of rats"... macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 4:22pm
                            He was going to stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20 2013, 1:03pm
                        This is your mistake macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 9:49am
                            Haha stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20 2013, 12:54pm
                                Well, your argument are for sure not sound. macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 4:17pm
                                    The reasons why are complicated stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20 2013, 4:24pm
                                        There is no point in debating this with you macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 4:34pm
                                            The book is resolute stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20 2013, 4:58pm
                                            Some people entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Feb 20 2013, 6:44pm
                                                As a moderator stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20 2013, 7:04pm
                                                    I presented your arguments from this thread in my post macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 7:55pm
                                                    Maybe it's not about you entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Feb 20 2013, 11:59pm
                                                Yes, it is better to walk away macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 8:13pm
                                        racist Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Feb 20 2013, 10:02pm
                            ... BalrogTrainer Send a private message to BalrogTrainer Feb 20 2013, 1:12pm
        Dwarves can turn violent, but what if you were him then? Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 19 2013, 10:04pm
    I actually wonder if part of the stone giants scene is foreshadowing... Username4242 Send a private message to Username4242 Feb 19 2013, 7:54pm
    Yes book Thorin is certainly a misunderstood character Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 19 2013, 10:12pm
    I agree Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 20 2013, 12:00am
    from the dragon's viewpoint... swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Feb 20 2013, 5:32am
    "In Defense of Thorin Oakenshield" Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 20 2013, 6:40pm
        Thanks for the link Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 20 2013, 7:07pm
        That is a fantastic essay on Thorin's character. Thank you for the link // macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 7:59pm
        Great essay! Thanks! Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 20 2013, 8:53pm
        Very good article! Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 20 2013, 11:26pm
        Thank you for this link. GloryBox Send a private message to GloryBox Feb 21 2013, 12:43am
        Great link! Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 21 2013, 5:58am
    A quote I found very accurate from the "In defence of Thorin Oakenshield" macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20 2013, 8:25pm
        Suddenly many realize about that once *spoilers* Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 20 2013, 11:47pm
    IMO marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Feb 20 2013, 11:58pm
        I agree Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 21 2013, 3:30am

 
 
 

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