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Pre Viz-ing the Battle of the 5 Armies?


Feb 18 2013, 4:15am

Post #1 of 19 (1456 views)
Pre Viz-ing the Battle of the 5 Armies? Can't Post

Likely story boarded by Christian Rivers Team
but put your Dwarvian Hoodzzzz
& DO your "Imaginary visionaries"?

Bombys favorite shot was the Nazgul
on FellBeasts
swooping down over the city
Of MT...in ROTK

Am hopeing PJ&Co..rely on Karen's
"ATLAS of Middle earth." (Hint,Hint)
PJ loves to fly his cameras.
As well as...
HIS many planes..

Bomby ia giving..an assignment
Open book test!

Homework due?
by next Sunday!

(This post was edited by Bombadil on Feb 18 2013, 4:18am)


Feb 18 2013, 4:38am

Post #2 of 19 (923 views)
The Avengers Shot [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd like to see the "Avengers shot" it's not the shot where all the heros are all back to back staring at the bad guys, it's the sweeping shot showing all our heros fight various bad guys

for example showing Kili and Fili fighting together then Kili shoots an arrow the camera follows the arrow past Dwalin who is fighting a couple of goblins then the camera pans over to someone else. then possibly end it on a funny note like when the Hulk Punched Thor

Tol Eressea

Feb 18 2013, 4:41am

Post #3 of 19 (865 views)
My money says [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo cannot be unconscious for the entire fight, That isn't going to cut it. I'll have to think that through and how it might play out.

Oin's parasite

Feb 18 2013, 5:17am

Post #4 of 19 (905 views)
I predict a few things to possibly happen (SOME SPOILERS) [In reply to] Can't Post

- Dáin and Dwalin simply plow through goblins.
- Thorin (possibly Gloin) fight back to back with Thranduil.
- Legolas does something Legolas-like.
- Azog and/or Bolg simply plow through men, elves, and dwarves.
- Thorin and company break down their wall and charge into the battle as they did in the book.
- Beorn will kill orcs/goblins/wargs, a lot of them. Imagine a steamroller going over a balloon.
- Biblo will stab a few goblins, heck maybe kill a bodyguard of Bolg/Azog (a bit of a stretch, but hey...give the hobbit his due)
- Thorin's hair will look splendid even while he is in a state of mortal injury.

"I've got parasites as big as my arm!"

Old Toby
Grey Havens

Feb 18 2013, 5:30am

Post #5 of 19 (840 views)
LOL! [In reply to] Can't Post

You crack me up!! BTW, I love your profile name! LOL!

Maybe Legolas will find something to ski/skateboard/surf down.

In Reply To
- Thorin's hair will look splendid even while he is in a state of mortal injury.

"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)

Oin's parasite

Feb 18 2013, 5:56am

Post #6 of 19 (851 views)
Perhaps pole-vault off Beorn? [In reply to] Can't Post


"I've got parasites as big as my arm!"


Feb 18 2013, 7:18am

Post #7 of 19 (791 views)
lol I've imagined something like that before [In reply to] Can't Post

A continuous camera shot that flies around the battle and focuses on each of the main characters in turn...

It will be interesting to see what PJ comes up with, I remember reading GDT talking about how he had to make the battle feel fresh and original compared to all the other battles we've seen on screen since LOTR.

I agree with Bombadil about the nazgul at Minas Tirith, I loved the camera work with them swooping down and picking up soliders etc, can't wait to see the eagles pulling orcs off the mountainside and dropping them to their deaths and other crazy airbourne stuff.

Grey Havens

Feb 18 2013, 7:28am

Post #8 of 19 (786 views)
One of those, for sure. [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To

- Legolas does something Legolas-like.

As in, when he's fighting in the battle, shooting six orcs with one arrow will be only the 19th most impressive thing he's done?

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- Thorin's hair will look splendid even while he is in a state of mortal injury.

LOL! That, I think, is the only sure bet here. Well spotted. Hair that majestic isn't put off by impending death.

Tol Eressea

Feb 18 2013, 9:02am

Post #9 of 19 (774 views)
I want to see Lake-town women [In reply to] Can't Post

bandaging up all the heads that are going to be cracked, re-suppling weapons, and cooking to keep the men on their feet. Some of these more quiet moments in between the interminable scenes of slaughter would be very welcome.

And, I suppose, if a few of them, made powerful by anger and sorrow at the loss of their families and homes, want to grab an axe, bow or sword and kick some orc behinds, that might be interesting, too. Evil


Feb 18 2013, 10:00am

Post #10 of 19 (749 views)
Orcsses on wings? [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh yes they can. .preecious

"These are Gunda-Badass bats..
Bomby would love to see them try?

Orcs on bats and eagles
oh my!

Tol Eressea

Feb 18 2013, 10:12am

Post #11 of 19 (727 views)
And don't forget the flying monkeys! [In reply to] Can't Post

Those are classic! We need an homage to another great wizard, don't you agree?

(This post was edited by Lissuin on Feb 18 2013, 10:13am)


Feb 18 2013, 2:38pm

Post #12 of 19 (694 views)
He wasn't [In reply to] Can't Post

He gets knocked out during the fight. That's exactly how it should play out, unless you want the comedic stylings of Bilbo running around the battlefield trying not to die. We've already seen that once before (Jar-Jar) and it wasn't pretty.

There are plenty of competent fighters that deserve the screen time here. Let Bilbo get knocked out and focus on the characters that can fight.

Tol Eressea

Feb 18 2013, 2:57pm

Post #13 of 19 (683 views)
I agree [In reply to] Can't Post

But he gets knocked out pretty early in the fight and misses a lot of it. We'll see how it plays out.


Feb 18 2013, 3:39pm

Post #14 of 19 (664 views)
I would love to see battle strategies [In reply to] Can't Post

There were proper strategies at Helm's Deep, but not enough at the Pelennor Fields (everyone is just busy fighting and staying alive).

In the BoFA we have FIVE armies in action, so I would like to see proper and intelligent battle tactics please :)

Tol Eressea

Feb 18 2013, 4:50pm

Post #15 of 19 (699 views)
Bilbo is knocked out, but [In reply to] Can't Post

he is wearing The One Ring, after all, which creates some pretty bizarre effects. If they want to keep the focus on Bilbo, there could be a wavey, spooky, ringy dream sequence with Bilbo unconscious but experiencing the battle and all his previous dangers as a nightmare; or he could have a completely surreal beautiful dream visitation back to the Shire and Rivendell. He will, of course, remember none of this when he wakes up or he would have recorded it in his book.


Feb 18 2013, 9:48pm

Post #16 of 19 (599 views)
Battle sequences [In reply to] Can't Post

Work best when built from the ground up, and are character driven. This is another advantage of having all the dwarves be slightly different, we'll be able to follow them arouond the battlefield.

There will no doubt be some interesting elven archery. I wonder what the Lake Men will be good at?

The goblins will have the numbers, but other than Azo/Bolg's guard, I don't think they have much on any dwarf, elf or competent human warrior.

It's not going to be realistic in any way, but fatigue would be a factor for anyone but the elves.


Feb 18 2013, 11:27pm

Post #17 of 19 (597 views)
Legolas And Bard [In reply to] Can't Post

I wanna see Legolas and Bard one upping each other in their archery skills or their general bad*ssery or maybe both lol we already have a pic of them together so you know PJ won't pass this up.


Feb 18 2013, 11:51pm

Post #18 of 19 (566 views)
And possibly add Tauriel and Kili to the mix [In reply to] Can't Post

It's a good time to be an archer in Middle-earth. Laugh

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Feb 19 2013, 8:57pm

Post #19 of 19 (534 views)
Bear withm Bomby..Briefly? [In reply to] Can't Post

Our 13 have plenty of time to explore the Horde
Pickking out the best swords
Picking out the best shields
picking out the best armor
picking out and diving into anything and everythin'..

More or less like
swimming in gold!

once a threat appears
"OFF to the Smithy "
To sharpen the BEST Exotic blades
Anyone? at Weta can imagine
actually discovering
And inhancing! Them
at a forge...

When they appear at the front Gate..?
fear will take over


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