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Did you accept it in the book?

imin
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Feb 18, 11:28am


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Did you accept it in the book? [In reply to] Can't Post
If you did then you will probably be alright, if not then you probably won't in the movie i would imagine.

For me as i know its going to happen and i quite like the little we are told of Dain i don't have a problem. I just hope his character in the movie is good and they don't try and over do it with him as they know he will become the king.

I think Dain was just as charismatic a leader and his feats from Azanulbizar would have gone a long way to helping this, but obviously in the movie they messed with that so might make it harder.

I also don't think it's Thorin being killed that motivates Balin to try and retake Moria. I think they went to try and reclaim Moria as they felt it could now be done - previously they didn't really think Erebor could be re-taken but it was - this is going off the books. For the film i have no idea as changes made in film 1 have repercussions further down the road for the ending of film 3.

Subject User Time
Will Dáin be worthy of being called King? (***spoilers***, naturally) Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 18, 7:21am
    Did you accept it in the book? imin Send a private message to imin Feb 18, 11:28am
    One way it could be handled alienorchid Send a private message to alienorchid Feb 18, 1:21pm
        This will be what makes it work Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 18, 3:05pm
    Doubt it will be a problem *spoilers* arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 18, 1:53pm
    Anything is better than Thorin stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 18, 2:31pm
        Explain me why Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 19, 5:52pm
            Lots of reasons stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 19, 7:43pm
                We will still see 3,4 and 5. Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 19, 9:24pm
                    I truly hope we don't see a racist Thorin* *Spoilers** Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 19, 10:24pm
                        I don't want to see that either Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 19, 11:03pm
                            A suggestion Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 19, 11:44pm
                                Completely! Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 19, 11:57pm
                        "'Descendent of rats,' indeed." Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 20, 9:45pm
    King Dain Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 18, 3:32pm
    It's hard to say at this point Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 18, 4:06pm
        A clarification Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 18, 5:00pm
            I've always felt that Bard and his people had a very good claim Bellerock Send a private message to Bellerock Feb 19, 1:21am
                I can only agree with some of what you say, Bellerock. ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 19, 7:47pm
                    I agree that Bilbo pobably shouldn't have sparred with the dragon. Bellerock Send a private message to Bellerock Feb 20, 1:45am
    It depends on how this is handled in the movie Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 18, 5:42pm
        Why PJ has done the dirty on Dain in AUJ is a bit of a mystery... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Feb 18, 6:21pm
            Yes, I'm wondering why ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 18, 7:57pm
            Good point Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 18, 9:27pm
                I really hope it will be Thorin Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 18, 10:18pm
    I'm not sure it even matters Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 18, 9:51pm
    An uphill climb for us...and the Company Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 19, 3:11am
        Shakespearean finale Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 19, 3:44am
            RA brings a classical intensity Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 19, 5:51pm
        Nice post imin Send a private message to imin Feb 19, 4:03am
            Thank you, Imin! To answer your questions Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 19, 6:33pm
                Another great post :) imin Send a private message to imin Feb 20, 12:02am
                    When the book was read... *spoilers* arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 20, 12:56am
                        That is interesting imin Send a private message to imin Feb 20, 3:37pm
                    Explains the Thorin issues...(laughing) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 20, 4:10am
                        Sounds like we are both a little bit jealous of each other, haha imin Send a private message to imin Feb 20, 3:55pm
                            Indeed! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 20, 4:52pm
        I think you summed it up... swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Feb 19, 4:32am
        Yes the end is going to be devastating Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 19, 5:34am
            Personally... marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Feb 19, 8:41am
                I agree! (*spoilers* of course) Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 19, 9:19am
                    Yeah marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Feb 19, 10:06am
                        Yep Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 19, 10:39am
                            LOL! Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 19, 3:29pm
                            Indeed Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 19, 3:46pm
                                The tissue concession Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 20, 4:41am
                        But surely "random" is the whole point, marillarania? ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 19, 5:08pm
                            Is it really random, though? Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 19, 5:59pm
                            Fan wanking IMO marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Feb 20, 10:41pm
        Great thoughts, Brethil. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 19, 11:01am
            Thanks Ro! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 19, 7:58pm
                :-) Musings... Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 19, 11:12pm
                    That is my view as well Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 19, 11:25pm
                    One license Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 20, 12:44am
                    Thorin's fate **spoilers** Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 20, 5:10am
    Dain has to become king,no matter what. Thorins_apprentice Send a private message to Thorins_apprentice Feb 19, 7:05am
    Reading the book... Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 19, 10:11pm
    I think a lot of it depends on Billy Connolly's portrayal. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Feb 20, 4:32am
        I've just begun to wonder ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 20, 1:28pm
            This is an excellent concept! Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Feb 20, 2:51pm
            That's a great idea! GloryBox Send a private message to GloryBox Feb 20, 6:19pm
            It would help (spoilers) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 20, 8:34pm
                Dain as Rebuilder Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 20, 8:49pm
            Oh, fantastic idea! Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 20, 11:30pm
            Oh I like this idea! Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 21, 8:14am
            Interesting idea. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 21, 1:45pm
                Your "ride of the... GloryBox Send a private message to GloryBox Feb 21, 6:08pm
    Going by Dain's words in LOTR to the Witch King emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Feb 20, 2:21pm

 
 
 

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