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Laerasėa
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Feb 13 2013, 3:11pm


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And I will try and be more careful about the notes I choose to share in the future-- because that was a direct quote, not my words, and it did come from a professor that I greatly respect here. But, as a student in the class, no matter how open the professor is to new ideas, I can't respond to her comments with a "gut reaction" without first thinking it over, and backing it up with sources so that I can prove why it is *not* flawed. In short, writing an essay.

I hope people here who are interested in reading this thread-- if it is to become weekly-- understand that I don't have time to do that kind of research with each post here, and while perhaps I may not agree with everything she says, I don't want my instinctive opinion to filter what's going on in the class. That being said, it does make me more hesitant to post again when I *do* get an outcry as to why what I am learning is "wrong." I feel like I've been on the defensive for a bit in this thread, which is not really my intention. I don't mind discussions or debates about why someone disagrees with an idea, or even just word choice. I *invite* those-- that's why I wanted to have a weekly discussion on this! Smile But, please remember that I am doing this on the side of a twenty-three hour semester during which I am also applying for grad school, jobs, and trying to find a place to live after the semester is over. I absolutely don't mind posting my notes-- on the contrary, I am excited to see everybody's thoughts and opinions!-- but I *would* really like to get the point across that these notes 1. Aren't entirely my opinion, 2. Represent a fraction of my time in class, 3. Comes from a professor whose PhD is in 20th century British lit and calls LOTR her "Bible" (in other words, not at all an academic who is out to prove why Tolkien is not a legitimate author) and 4. Are subjects to- well- flaws, as I am not going to put the same kind of thought into them as I would into a paper that I expect to be slammed by the professor unless I properly back it up (not that those don't have flaws too, of course). Crazy This is meant to be a discussion post rather than a "thesis post," if you will. I will try and be more careful with future posts, as I said, but please keep in mind that my goal is to stimulate discussion and share what I'm learning, and not to rile up the Tolkien fans.

On *that* note, I actually have to run to class. Tongue I hope I was able to make sense. I am really excited that I have gotten so much participation on here-- I absolutely wasn't expecting so many responses! SmileSmileSmile

‎"When we can take green from grass, blue from heaven, and red from blood, we have already an enchanter's power—upon one plane; and the desire to wield that power in the world
external to our minds awakes."
--J. R. R. Tolkien


Mozart and Chocolate

(This post was edited by Laerasėa on Feb 13 2013, 3:16pm)

Subject User Time
Tolkien Notes: Intro, Language, and flaws in The Hobbit Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 11 2013, 1:03am
    Flaws in The Hobbit dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Feb 11 2013, 1:41am
        Oh dear... Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 11 2013, 3:28am
            Hmm? Al Carondas Send a private message to Al Carondas Feb 11 2013, 4:06am
            No, no, not you! dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Feb 11 2013, 1:43pm
                I think Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 4:24am
                    Ah, language.... Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Feb 13 2013, 7:58am
                        I understand Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 3:11pm
    The Hobbit was written for Tolkien's children. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Feb 11 2013, 2:19am
        I don't think I explained it properly Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 11 2013, 3:15am
            It *had* to be the same universe as LotR Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Feb 11 2013, 4:04am
            I believe also, if i am not mistaken, silneldor Send a private message to silneldor Feb 11 2013, 5:38am
    Long live The Hobbit Al Carondas Send a private message to Al Carondas Feb 11 2013, 3:21am
        Nope Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 4:35am
    Further to dernwyn's comments SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Feb 11 2013, 4:02am
        She is absolutely open to new ideas Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 4:03am
    in regards to replies in this thread... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Feb 11 2013, 5:10am
        Thank you, M Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 4:46am
    I feel safe in saying demnation Send a private message to demnation Feb 11 2013, 6:46am
        I was actually under that impression, as well Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 4:05am
    A few comments sador Send a private message to sador Feb 11 2013, 2:50pm
        I love Tom Shippey! Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 3:53am
            Good for you! sador Send a private message to sador Feb 13 2013, 5:18pm
    And there is more... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 11 2013, 4:51pm
        Wow! Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 3:32am
    This Great Fun IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 11 2013, 7:50pm
        Thank you! Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 3:24am
    Excited to follow your class! Menelwyn Send a private message to Menelwyn Feb 11 2013, 9:27pm
        Good to see you here :) Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Feb 13 2013, 4:49am
    Laerasea my dear, silneldor Send a private message to silneldor Feb 12 2013, 3:18am
    I find more flaws in LOTR than in TH. // macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 13 2013, 10:28am
        I know you do. :-) Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Feb 13 2013, 2:35pm
        Well, even Tolkien, himself, had issues with 'The Hobbit'. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 13 2013, 3:44pm
            I am aware of this macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 14 2013, 12:43pm
                But those first few chapters are so good! imin Send a private message to imin Feb 14 2013, 12:53pm
                Which problems with LotR really bother you? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 14 2013, 12:53pm
                    It's hard to put it to words macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 14 2013, 12:58pm
                        Well, I can see where an inablility to relate to the main character could be a problem. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 14 2013, 1:07pm
                On the Other Hand IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14 2013, 4:51pm
    okay, here's a question... since we're talking about anachronisms in language Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Feb 13 2013, 2:41pm
    To lapse or not to lapse? That's a question? ;) grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 14 2013, 3:49am

 
 
 

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