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Big Bad Bolg (book spoilers & movie speculation)


Feb 13 2013, 2:01am

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Since his story will without a doubt be expanded from what we get in the book, I thought I would start a thread regarding Bolg and his role in the upcoming movies. In the book, all we really know about Bolg is that he 1) is the son of Azog 2) is apparently the king of all the Orcs of the Misty Mountains, whom he commands from Mount Gundabad 3) meets his end during the Battle of the Five Armies, where he is defeated by Beorn. So, basically, I wonder how these points will be addressed in the movies.

Bolg and Azog

Since Azog's role has been expanded as well, how will their stories tie together? The way Azog has been set up as a menacing and powerful villain, I think it's likely that he'll make it as far as the Battle of Five Armies. Does that mean Azog will initially be in command, then be killed leaving Bolg to take over and seek revenge? Or maybe the other way around? I wonder if there will be any significant screen time where they are together, maybe plotting some evil scheme. Tongue

As an aside, we already know about the father/son relationship, so I wonder if this angle will get any focus. I always thought it was interesting that this detail is mentioned in the books but its significance is never really explored. That is, putting it all together, one could say that the Battle of Five Armies is an echo of the Battle of Azanulbizar and, by extension, of the War of the Dwarves and the Orcs, but it's never stated explicitly that Bolg is motivated by revenge.

Bolg and the Necromancer

According to his action figure description (I think it was), in the movies Bolg will be based out of Dol Guldur (at least initially). Whoa, that's a big change! What the heck is he doing there? Why is he working for the Necromancer? I wonder if we'll get some background for this, or if they'll just let it be since having an Orc serving a Dark Lord isn't all that unusual?

Bolg and Beorn

If the movies stick to the book (and I hope they do), these two will have a showdown during the final battle. In the book, Beorn just kind of suddenly shows up. But knowing how the movies have been handled so far, I think these two will be given some backstory of which their fight will serve as the climax. There's been news floating around about Beorn being involved in some kind of torture scene, as well as Bolg being a torturer at Dol Guldur, so if you put the pieces together this could be where their mutual hatred comes from. Also, Bolg seems to be wearing bear claws and perhaps fur. So maybe he hunts the bear-folk the same way Azog does Dwarves? (Then again, Bolg also seems to be wearing a Dwarf beard and perhaps hair. And either someone has bloodied his mouth or he has a very interesting choice of lipstick. And are his eyebrows real? Crazy)

Well, that's all I can think of for now. If anyone has some additions/comments, feel free to share! Cool

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Subject User Time
Big Bad Bolg (book spoilers & movie speculation) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 13 2013, 2:01am
    My, what big teeth you have! Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 13 2013, 10:21am
        they will set up Dain in some way Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Feb 13 2013, 11:06am
        I do hope... *book spoilers* Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 13 2013, 11:22am
            Many spoilers here. Re: who kills whom (?) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 13 2013, 6:13pm
        Dwarves and Orcs and Beorn and BoFA (more book spoilers!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 14 2013, 3:58am
            Exactly! And yes more spoilers.... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 14 2013, 4:46pm
                Poor Thorin! And the Bolg/Azog connection (book spoilers continued!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 14 2013, 11:38pm
                    Thank you! I didn't know that about the figures. Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 15 2013, 2:54am
    No relationship nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Feb 13 2013, 3:34pm
        I would prefer it Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 13 2013, 4:06pm
        This is close to my thinking Michelle Johnston Feb 13 2013, 10:21pm
            I hope they don't try to void it. Azog and Bolg are only unique in that their kinship is mentioned and specified, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 11:13pm
                The nonesense of growing orcs from the ground was exactly nonsense, whooeey that Peter made up to be more PG Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 1:51am
                Filling In The Point Michelle Johnston Feb 14 2013, 7:41am
                    Saruman's Uruk-hai Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 15 2013, 12:06am
                        Uruk Hai & more on Bolg Michelle Johnston Feb 15 2013, 11:03am
    Could it be possible... MEIGWIT Send a private message to MEIGWIT Feb 13 2013, 4:30pm
    Other thoughts IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14 2013, 1:08am


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