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Lio
Rivendell

Feb 13, 2:01am
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Big Bad Bolg (book spoilers & movie speculation)
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Since his story will without a doubt be expanded from what we get in the book, I thought I would start a thread regarding Bolg and his role in the upcoming movies. In the book, all we really know about Bolg is that he 1) is the son of Azog 2) is apparently the king of all the Orcs of the Misty Mountains, whom he commands from Mount Gundabad 3) meets his end during the Battle of the Five Armies, where he is defeated by Beorn. So, basically, I wonder how these points will be addressed in the movies. Bolg and Azog Since Azog's role has been expanded as well, how will their stories tie together? The way Azog has been set up as a menacing and powerful villain, I think it's likely that he'll make it as far as the Battle of Five Armies. Does that mean Azog will initially be in command, then be killed leaving Bolg to take over and seek revenge? Or maybe the other way around? I wonder if there will be any significant screen time where they are together, maybe plotting some evil scheme. As an aside, we already know about the father/son relationship, so I wonder if this angle will get any focus. I always thought it was interesting that this detail is mentioned in the books but its significance is never really explored. That is, putting it all together, one could say that the Battle of Five Armies is an echo of the Battle of Azanulbizar and, by extension, of the War of the Dwarves and the Orcs, but it's never stated explicitly that Bolg is motivated by revenge. Bolg and the Necromancer According to his action figure description (I think it was), in the movies Bolg will be based out of Dol Guldur (at least initially). Whoa, that's a big change! What the heck is he doing there? Why is he working for the Necromancer? I wonder if we'll get some background for this, or if they'll just let it be since having an Orc serving a Dark Lord isn't all that unusual? Bolg and Beorn If the movies stick to the book (and I hope they do), these two will have a showdown during the final battle. In the book, Beorn just kind of suddenly shows up. But knowing how the movies have been handled so far, I think these two will be given some backstory of which their fight will serve as the climax. There's been news floating around about Beorn being involved in some kind of torture scene, as well as Bolg being a torturer at Dol Guldur, so if you put the pieces together this could be where their mutual hatred comes from. Also, Bolg seems to be wearing bear claws and perhaps fur. So maybe he hunts the bear-folk the same way Azog does Dwarves? (Then again, Bolg also seems to be wearing a Dwarf beard and perhaps hair. And either someone has bloodied his mouth or he has a very interesting choice of lipstick. And are his eyebrows real? ) Well, that's all I can think of for now. If anyone has some additions/comments, feel free to share!
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Big Bad Bolg (book spoilers & movie speculation)
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Lio
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Feb 13, 2:01am
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My, what big teeth you have!
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Roheryn
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Feb 13, 10:21am
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they will set up Dain in some way
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Valandil ed Imladris
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Feb 13, 11:06am
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I do hope... *book spoilers*
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Angharad73
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Feb 13, 11:22am
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Many spoilers here. Re: who kills whom (?)
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Brethil
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Feb 13, 6:13pm
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Dwarves and Orcs and Beorn and BoFA (more book spoilers!)
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Lio
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Feb 14, 3:58am
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Exactly! And yes more spoilers....
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Brethil
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Feb 14, 4:46pm
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Poor Thorin! And the Bolg/Azog connection (book spoilers continued!)
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Lio
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Feb 14, 11:38pm
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Thank you! I didn't know that about the figures.
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Brethil
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Feb 15, 2:54am
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No relationship
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nhui06
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Feb 13, 3:34pm
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I would prefer it
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Glorfindela
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Feb 13, 4:06pm
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This is close to my thinking
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Michelle Johnston
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Feb 13, 10:21pm
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I hope they don't try to void it. Azog and Bolg are only unique in that their kinship is mentioned and specified,
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 13, 11:13pm
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The nonesense of growing orcs from the ground was exactly nonsense, whooeey that Peter made up to be more PG
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Lusitano
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Feb 14, 1:51am
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Filling In The Point
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Michelle Johnston
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Feb 14, 7:41am
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Saruman's Uruk-hai
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Lio
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Feb 15, 12:06am
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Uruk Hai & more on Bolg
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Michelle Johnston
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Feb 15, 11:03am
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Could it be possible...
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MEIGWIT
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Feb 13, 4:30pm
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Other thoughts
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IdrilofGondolin
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Feb 14, 1:08am
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