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A nice sentiment

squire
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Feb 13 2013, 1:30am


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A nice sentiment [In reply to] Can't Post

I hate to question it on its own terms - as you point out, it shows an admirable ability on Legolas' part to admit a mistake, and on Aragorn's part to forgive a friend's loss of faith in his leadership.

But is it Tolkien? I know the original question asked for inspirational sentiment from Tolkien -- or "those who have interpreted him" in order to include the movie scripts. But the scripts are notorious for adding inspirational sentiments that derive from a more contemporary culture than Tolkien was interested in exploring. In this case, I can't recall any character that Tolkien wrote who actually "despaired" of the leadership of figures like Gandalf and Aragorn. At most some followers confess to having some doubts.

But the key point in Tolkien, I think, is that even when the followers feel doubt, they continue on in their duties as best they can. They cannot see where their leaders are taking them, but they do not despair nevertheless, because duty and honor holds them to their course no matter how hopeless-seeming things are. True despair, such as that shown by Denethor, is unforgiveable and unforgiven. It's pointless to argue whether the film should have or could have been truer to Tolkien in matters like this, but I for one feel that Tolkien's Legolas and Aragorn could never have exchanged those words.



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    Table manners. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 12 2013, 3:55am
        Aren't our Hobbits the best? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 12 2013, 4:11am
        My Favorite Quote As Well IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 12 2013, 4:35pm
        That's my very favorite line too <3 // Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Feb 12 2013, 10:20pm
        Beautiful quote Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Feb 13 2013, 12:02am
    Bit of Wisdom The White Wizard Send a private message to The White Wizard Feb 12 2013, 12:12pm
        Yes... Ereinion Nénharma Send a private message to Ereinion Nénharma Feb 12 2013, 2:44pm
        Definitely! Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Feb 13 2013, 12:09am
    An exchange between Aragorn and Legolas SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Feb 12 2013, 3:11pm
        A nice sentiment squire Send a private message to squire Feb 13 2013, 1:30am
            But maybe someone needed to? Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Feb 13 2013, 2:53am
    If you are hoping Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Feb 12 2013, 9:17pm
        For sure!// Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Feb 13 2013, 12:09am
    Tolkien has influenced me so much Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Feb 13 2013, 2:02am
    I made a list of 9 Arandiel, silneldor Send a private message to silneldor Feb 13 2013, 4:19am
        A beautiful list Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Feb 13 2013, 5:15pm
    Seven inspirations for me CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 13 2013, 8:19pm
    The wisdom of Tolkien's words... dreamflower Send a private message to dreamflower Feb 13 2013, 10:05pm
        Generosity to the undeserving CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 14 2013, 2:10am
        #3: "From that point on, it became personal" Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Feb 14 2013, 5:07am
    Not really a "daily" thing ryouko Send a private message to ryouko Feb 14 2013, 2:24am
        Not 'overused' Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Feb 14 2013, 5:11am
    What a wonderful little hobbit you have! Wow... grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 14 2013, 6:09pm
        Love those, gramma. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 14 2013, 10:05pm
            I'm so fearful grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 15 2013, 10:17am
        Oh! I used that qoute in a fanfic I wrote! // ryouko Send a private message to ryouko Feb 15 2013, 11:05pm

 
 
 

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