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As far as I remember, not exactly.

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Feb 12 2013, 9:33pm


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As far as I remember, not exactly. [In reply to] Can't Post

In the footnotes, Kane quotes Charles Noad as stating that this was the very first chapter that was created by combining different sources; before that, Christopher Tolkien preferred the approach of taking the last version of each chapter and presenting it with a comprehensive commentary.

I haven't read Noad myself, but I once came across his appraisal of Arda Reconstructed; a link in that eesay sent me to another online source, in which he summarized his impressions from hearing Guy Kay speak about the making of The Silmarillion. I searched for this, and couldn't find it today - the traces led to a discussion in LotRPlaza which seems blocked for non-members.

Anyway, if my memory serves, Noad reports Kay as claiming to be the one who persuaded Christopher that his approach was impractical; and to show the advantages of his approach, he constructed the third chapter (this one) using different sources, which was lauded by all (I remember not understanding who were "all").

If I remember correctly, this account implied that this chapter was basically constructed by Kay, with perhaps only moinor corrections. The only other part Christopher attributes to him in person (the bits from The Lay of Leithan in the chapter regarding Beren and Luthien) also gives the impression that Kay pushed more in the direction of an ecletic text, striving for better cohesiveness and consistency rather than aiming at an accurate reproducing of any basic text - while Christopher was the more conservative voice.
All this is the merest speculation, of course; but this is the type of discussion I miss in Arda Reconstructed. I know Kane was criticised by some for his taking liberties in calling to question some of the editorial decisions (and quite often disagreed with him myself); but at the end of the day, I think he was over-modest rather than the opposite, and felt himself inadequate to tackle the real big questions. In one place he states that since Christopher never explained how he chose between different versions, he will try to provide the reasons by himself - but always locally, not daring to go after the truly big game of guiding principles.


Anyway, that's a side-note. Another one: if my memory serves, and Of the Coming of the Elves was originally the third chapter of the whole work - this indicates that Of Aule and Yavanna was indeed added at a later stage (another of Kay's ideas, perhaps?); but also that the Ainulindale (as published in 1977) was not written yet; in the later Silmarillion (HoME vol. 10) the Valaquenta is not a separate work but the first chapter, followed by a part of Of the Beginning of Days. I assume that making it a separate work was a later-stage decision, as well as taking a part of the Ainulindale and adding it to the first chapter - a decision Kane is puzzled about.
If my guess is correct, this is another case of the confidence Kay brought to the project, that the editors may move bit and pieces around in the interest of the book.

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The Silmarillion discussion: Of the Coming of the Elves CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 1 2013, 5:34am
    Brief comment from "Arda Reconstructed" CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 1 2013, 5:55am
        I'm enjoying seeing these brief comments from AR Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 1 2013, 7:34pm
        As far as I remember, not exactly. sador Send a private message to sador Feb 12 2013, 9:33pm
            Some corrections Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 13 2013, 2:41am
                Thank you! sador Send a private message to sador Feb 13 2013, 5:12pm
                    Food for thought is good! Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 13 2013, 7:00pm
                        "It needed a week's answer, or none." sador Send a private message to sador Feb 15 2013, 2:04pm
                            I'm always interested in what you have to say! // Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 15 2013, 3:51pm
    birth and other questions fo Elves elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Feb 1 2013, 4:15pm
        >>Why do you think Melkor was nibbling around the edges of the Elves and kidnapping them a few at a time? Why not enslave them all at once? They weren't exactly a fighting force. Asger Send a private message to Asger Feb 1 2013, 6:57pm
        Elves and the bad guy CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 3 2013, 6:31pm
    great post! I hope my answers measure up... telain Send a private message to telain Feb 2 2013, 8:34pm
        Doom and Deepness and Damned, sexy orcs noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 3 2013, 6:06pm
            Mandos and his secrets CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 3 2013, 9:12pm
                doomed by doom? telain Send a private message to telain Feb 5 2013, 4:32pm
        Valar and Elves CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 3 2013, 7:02pm
    Of Elves and Orcs--more info CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 3 2013, 7:56pm
    Answers at last sador Send a private message to sador Feb 11 2013, 12:16pm
        late thought about stars, and links to real Earth noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 11 2013, 2:35pm
            Oh, the next chapter disscussion HAS started... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 11 2013, 2:38pm
            Middle-earth and Real-earth telain Send a private message to telain Feb 12 2013, 4:25pm
        Answers to answers CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 15 2013, 1:51am

 
 
 

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