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squire
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Feb 12, 2:35am
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5. Your 'enchanted king' legend immediately brought this to my mind, and since you asked for other examples we could discuss, I offer it for our general consideration:
For six days in June 2009, South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford's whereabouts were unknown and there was media coverage of what was described as his disappearance. Subsequently the Governor reappeared and reported that he had been in Argentina with a woman with whom he was having an extramarital affair. - Wikipedia
The only thing that has not yet emerged is the exact nature of the enchantment that Sra. Maria Belén Chapur used on the hapless Chief Executive of the Palmetto State. It is not enough simply to shrug and point out that Argentina is the home of the tango...
6. Although I've always enjoyed the interplay between Quenya and Sindarin in Tolkien's stories, and I do think the level of development evident in the two languages does set Tolkien off from his numerous knock-offs and competitors, I have never taken them very seriously as actual languages that tie into the type of history he wrote. He wrapped himself into hopeless knots trying to write "human-type" mythology for "non-human" (i.e., immortal) peoples, not least with the problem of why and how the languages would undergo the sound-changes, grammatical evolutions, and other philological nitty-gritty, when they were being spoken by the same individuals the whole time. Languages change over dozens of human generations, during which those humans may encounter dozens of other tribes with other languages. The Elvish languages seemingly originate with, are spoken by, and then change significantly for about two or at most three Elven generations, who never meet any other speaking peoples during the time of these significant linguistic divergences. If I remember (it's fuzzy, and I welcome correction), HoME shows Tolkien rewriting the story of Noldorin/Sindarin significantly in the 1930s as he realized the unlikelihood of his original 1910s-1920s scenarios. But the problem remained. (He had similar issues with how you can have traditional rip-roaring royal family feuds featuring an evil step-mother and hateful half-brothers when divorce is unknown and no one ever dies - doh.)
As for your 7., I tend to follow Verlyn Flieger who pointed out that the Grey Elves, as a mix of Dark and Light, contain within themselves the necessary ingredients for drama, which the Dark Elves (all Dark, end of story) and the Light Elves (all Light, end of story) do not.
squire online:
RR Discussions: The Valaquenta, A Shortcut to Mushrooms, and Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit
Lights! Action! Discuss on the Movie board!: 'A Journey in the Dark'. and 'Designing The Two Towers'.
Footeramas: The 3rd (and NOW the 4th too!) TORn Reading Room LotR Discussion; and "Tolkien would have LOVED it!"
squiretalk introduces the J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia: A Reader's Diary
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Silmarillion Discussion: Of Thingol and Melian, #2
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NZ Strider
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Feb 12, 1:22am
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La Belle Dame Sans Chimichurri
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squire
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Feb 12, 2:35am
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Perhaps Gov. Sanford demonstrated
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NZ Strider
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Feb 12, 7:48am
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Whose enchantment is it anyway?
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noWizardme
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Feb 12, 6:00pm
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Is it just a "stock theme" though?
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FarFromHome
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Feb 13, 4:31pm
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Love and enchantment
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elevorn
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Feb 13, 8:13pm
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Feminine wiles
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CuriousG
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Feb 14, 1:52am
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posting previous questions here now
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elevorn
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Feb 14, 5:37pm
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Thingol's resume
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CuriousG
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Feb 15, 1:29am
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Late answers
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sador
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Feb 17, 3:25pm
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a few thoughts on several great comments
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telain
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Feb 20, 11:51pm
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Hyperlink to next chapter
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noWizardme
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Feb 21, 10:21pm
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