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Don’t Think J.R.R. Tolkien Would’ve Liked the ‘LOTR’ Franchise Much....?

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Feb 10 2013, 8:04pm

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Don’t Think J.R.R. Tolkien Would’ve Liked the ‘LOTR’ Franchise Much....? Can't Post

It’s funny to think how many people are at the level of ‘Lord of the Rings’ fandom where they learn to read and speak Elvish, and dress up in Middle Earth garb on a regular basis, especially when Tolkien himself didn’t hold his fantasy works on the same level as his other intellectual property. More important to him were his criticisms of ‘Beowulf’ and translation of ‘Sir Gawain and the Green Knight.’ In fact, he was somewhat shocked to realize the fan base springing up as a result of ‘The Hobbit’ and ‘The Lord of the Rings.’ As for the fans themselves, he didn’t care for them much, thinking them incapable of truly grasping what his books were really about. Sorry, guys.

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Last but not least, I have come across a gorgeous violin cover on the Rohan theme in the lotr movies:
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Tol Eressea

Feb 11 2013, 4:42am

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I'm one of those geeky fans... [In reply to] Can't Post

... who've read all the bios and letters and other Tolkien stuff... and forgotten more than I'd like to admit. I think he was a Professor and Scholar first and foremost, he surely did not understand fandom... and perhaps it is a fairly modern phenomenon.

Regardless, he did say something somewhere about leaving gaps in his tales for other hands wielding pen or brush, so on some level, he expected people to come play around in his world. I think he would be pleased to know how many people have learned something about his languages (perhaps he'd be amused that I have used a Sindarin version of Legolas' "to the sea, to the sea" song as a kayaking and rowing the Viking Longship song (www.longship.org, yes it's real).

There are some parts of fandom that would certainly offend him (the rather more x-rated stories and art), but the truth is, when you turn a story loose on the world, it takes on its own life, and people will take it and run with it, and interpret it... or live it... as they wish.

Go outside and play...


Feb 12 2013, 2:09pm

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Personally I think that [In reply to] Can't Post

Tolkien would have been (on the whole) pleased with the LOTR trilogy, particularly the first installment. Some moments would have upset him (Such as Wormtongue speaking Gandalf's lines to Eowyn in TTT film), but I think he would have understood why the filmmakers needed to make the changes and I believe he would have accepted them.

However, while I myself love The Hobbit part 1, I do not think Tolkien would have been impressed at all. I think he would have enjoyed the beginning of the film, but Azog and Radagast in particular would have really annoyed him.

I don't think he had the opinion of fans that you say he did: I think that he probably felt that most of them couldn't grasp what he was getting at (i.e. they couldn't see beyond the obvious good vs evil thing). Of course no one else could truly grasp it but him: it's his work, after all!

"These are Gundabad Wargs! They will outrun you!"

"THESE are Rhosgobel Rabbits! I'd like to see them try...."


Feb 15 2013, 8:13pm

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Good point on The Hobbit. [In reply to] Can't Post

I could just imagine Peter Jackson giving a long-winded explanation to Tolkien about why he made the changes. I can also imagine Tolkien wrinkling his nose and having an annoyed look on his face. Oh PJ, why the skulls...

I think Azog would have had Tolkien twitching. He certainly made me twitch.

In the end, I think no-one can really interpret a work one hundred percent correctly; no-one really knows what goes on in an author's mind. Smile

Þæs ofereode, þisses swa mæg - that has passed, so may this.


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