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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 9 2013, 6:30pm
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Did anyone else notice this?
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Martin Freeman in real life is left handed. Yet in The Hobbit he does everything right handed (such as use the sword etc. Although he did pick up the ring with his left hand). Do you think this is because Ian Holm is right handed and was seen writing etc. right handed and done for consistency? If so I wonder how conscious of it Freeman and the directors had to be during the filming.
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sycorax82
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Feb 9 2013, 6:57pm
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I think this has been mentioned by Martin himself
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I seem to remember him saying that he was determined to learn to use his sword right-handed, no matter what.
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Feb 9 2013, 7:22pm
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Well I'm sure it helps him look more "awkward" when wielding a sword
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Kimtc
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Feb 9 2013, 7:58pm
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This was true of Bernard Hill, too.
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He is left handed, but he was determined to use his right hand at the Battle of Pelennor Fields when he clashed swords with the troops as they went into battle (because of the direction he was coming from on his horse). Apparently it was actually pretty hard for him to do.
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Lauryn
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Feb 9 2013, 8:16pm
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I haven't seen him say anything about specifically learning to use his sword right handed. I just assumed everyone learned right handed because the trainers teaching them were probably right handed. It's the same with actors and guns. Plus is they are training 14 actors how to use swords, it's going to be easier if they are all using the same hand. I defiantly think him not using his dominant hand makes him look a bit more awkward, and that really works well for Bilbo. I would love to see a scene of him actually writing, because that will let me know if he actually is making it a conscious decision. I'm a person who really notices the handness of a person. I have it down to a science lol. I find that he may be consciously trying to do things right-handed, but it's the unconscious things that I notice (He catches things left handed.. opens doors... picks things up... just instinctively uses it). Hoping for a scene of him writing something :D
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JWPlatt
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Feb 9 2013, 8:38pm
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I'm sorry, I don't read threads with coy, teasing or vague subject headings. Oh, but welcome to the forums, of course!
(This post was edited by JWPlatt on Feb 9 2013, 8:40pm)
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 9 2013, 9:38pm
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I didn't realize that about Bernard Hill.
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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea
Feb 9 2013, 9:42pm
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That when he picks up the Ring after Gollum loses it he uses his left hand (in the prologue to FOTR Ian Holm uses his right hand..I wonder if they will ever swap out Freeman for Holm in future Fellowship prints. I guess we'll have to see). I do like the fact that having to use his non dominant hand makes him more clumsy. I think for consistency sake since we see Ian Holm writing right handed that that is one of the reasons that Freeman also used his right hand (a small thing to be sure but something I did notice). Also he used the fork left handed at the beginning when he was eating the fish at dinner before Dwalin comes to the door. I just found it kind of fascinating and was wondering if it was indeed a conscious decision. If so it worked well.
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 9 2013, 9:44pm
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;-) Indeed! :)
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Lonely Mountain
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Feb 9 2013, 9:47pm
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He is left handed, but he was determined to use his right hand at the Battle of Pelennor Fields when he clashed swords with the troops as they went into battle (because of the direction he was coming from on his horse). Apparently it was actually pretty hard for him to do. In TTT Bernard Hill used his left hand when he drew his sword and banished Grima.
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Eowyn3
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Feb 9 2013, 10:36pm
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That makes me even more impressed
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with him, and Bernard Hill also. True dedication!
" He has just as much reason to go to war as you do. Why can he not fight for those he loves?"
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Kimtc
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Feb 9 2013, 10:39pm
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I think he uses his left hand throughout
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Except for that scene. If I tried to do that, while on horseback, with my weaker hand, that sword would have gone flying right into some poor horselord's head.
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Starling
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Feb 9 2013, 11:39pm
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So now something makes more sense to me
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I always have a bit of a cringe during that scene, because his riding is not good. But now that I know that he was having to bash everyone's swords with his non-dominant hand, I think he did a pretty good job!
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 10 2013, 12:08am
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I always have a bit of a cringe during that scene, because his riding is not good. But now that I know that he was having to bash everyone's swords with his non-dominant hand, I think he did a pretty good job! I never realized that BH was left handed. That makes that scene really pretty amazing that he did that with his non dominant hand. it will be interesting to see what Freeman does as Bilbo throughout the rest of the film as well.
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 10 2013, 12:09am
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I'm sorry, I don't read threads with coy, teasing or vague subject headings. Oh, but welcome to the forums, of course! why thank you so much Jw!
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Rostron2
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Feb 10 2013, 3:12am
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True, he not only had to wield right-handed, but he was very uncomfortable riding a horse, but he was very determined to do the scene we saw. Martin freeman continues to amaze me, he's so very interesting. I can't say enough good things about him or his portrayal.
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Arandiel
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Feb 10 2013, 5:42am
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The eating thing is more likely cultural
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Throughout much of Britain and Europe, many people eat with the fork in the left hand and knife in the right as a matter of course. And welcome to TORn!
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BoromirOfWinterfell
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Feb 10 2013, 8:12am
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Nice observation. This is one of the reasons I love Peter Jackson's movies - attention to detail.
Þæs ofereode, þisses swa mæg - that has passed, so may this.
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Feb 10 2013, 11:11am
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I'd never thought about it, but you're probably right. I've a left handed brother who eats like that, even when it'd be easier the other way around. I'd never noticed Martin was left-handed - nice detail! Didn't Bernard say in the EE audio commentary that he had to train to hit those spears with his sword?
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marillaraina
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Feb 10 2013, 11:47am
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I'd never thought about it, but you're probably right. I've a left handed brother who eats like that, even when it'd be easier the other way around. I'd never noticed Martin was left-handed - nice detail! Didn't Bernard say in the EE audio commentary that he had to train to hit those spears with his sword? Why would it be easier to eat the other way around? I'm left handed, I eat with my fork in my left hand and my knife in my right. It's perfectly easy to do and none of that time-wasting, pointless switching of hands after the food is cut. LOL Do right handed people have trouble cutting with their left hand that they need to cut, put down their knife and then switch their fork over to the hand their knife was holding? :D
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mutelock
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Feb 10 2013, 11:54am
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Don't know about other right-handed people, but I certainly can't cut a thing with my left hand. I can't even shake a test tube! I do open jars though
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marillaraina
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Feb 10 2013, 12:56pm
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Don't know about other right-handed people, but I certainly can't cut a thing with my left hand. I can't even shake a test tube! I do open jars though Well maybe most left-handed people are just more versatile. :) I definitely don't have to switch hands between knife and fork to eat. LOL I mean can you cut with the right and eat with the left then? Do you really need to switch hands to eat? I peel potatoes and fruit with my left hand though. :) I have enough trouble with that, I'd hate to think what kind of bloodshed I'd cause myself trying to do it with my right hand. LOL In any case, bravo to Martin and Bernard and their non-dominant hand talents! :)
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Feb 10 2013, 1:07pm
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have to be a little ambidextrous in a right-handed world. Even drinking fountains are right-hand oriented.
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