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Does the characters actions make sense

Michelle Johnston
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Feb 8 2013, 11:43pm


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Does the characters actions make sense [In reply to] Can't Post

I think you raise a good point. For me its very simple does the character do something that is entirely at odds with your perceptions:-

In the LOTR Gandalf is (in my view) misreported in his interactions with Denethor and the Witch King whereas Wormtongue murdered Saruman with the same intent though in a different place.

Azog, based on the appendices, is doing exactly what I would expect of him. He has a special hatred for the Dwarves and particularly those of Durins line and by bringing him into the current timeline we see that hatred exercised.

In terms of his importance to the story development by retaining him he is more closely tied to Thorin which enables his character to express real time his loathing and hatred for his grand fathers nemesis.

I love the moon light scene at Weathertop with the Warg it echoes imagery from the Silmarillion as others have pointed out. On this question of bringing evil so far West there are exchanges in the LOTR book where shire folk refer to evil things on their borders it is never identified but the idea that is more than a few ruffians is clearly intended by Tolkien. Looking at it the other way round it is entirely unlikely that three trolls would come down from the moors in complete isolation. I suspect the non book reader would expect the journey to be invested with jeopardy beyond the lighter more comic intervention with the Trolls.

On a more general point one rarely comes across a lover of a book whom isn't in someway disappointed by some element of adaption. These movies are huge and so that concern is magnified. However if we do approach these adaptions in an organisational sense I suspect we will be very disappointed. I am not because I leave the film makers to do their job and I simply react instinctively to the characters and what they do within Tolkiens wonderfully realised world.

I tried to save the shire , and it has been but not for me.

(This post was edited by Michelle Johnston on Feb 8 2013, 11:45pm)

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azog in the hobbit trqn13 Send a private message to trqn13 Feb 8 2013, 10:18am
    azog andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 8 2013, 1:24pm
        re: trqn13 Send a private message to trqn13 Feb 8 2013, 2:00pm
            Does the characters actions make sense Michelle Johnston Feb 8 2013, 11:43pm
            changes. andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 9 2013, 1:27am
        love is a strong word stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 8 2013, 3:22pm
            ignore?? andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 9 2013, 1:03am
        My opinion is that it was stupid and luducrous. sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Feb 9 2013, 4:16am
            re: trqn13 Send a private message to trqn13 Feb 9 2013, 9:11am
                not sure what you're getting at. sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Feb 9 2013, 3:13pm
                    my bad trqn13 Send a private message to trqn13 Feb 9 2013, 3:55pm
                        ha ha no problem... sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Feb 9 2013, 5:18pm
                well... andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 10 2013, 12:51am
                    ok trqn13 Send a private message to trqn13 Feb 10 2013, 2:51pm
                        indeed andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 10 2013, 7:35pm
            opinions andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 10 2013, 12:42am
                First off, sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Feb 10 2013, 5:57pm
                    no i didnt andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 10 2013, 7:28pm
    ok. Clifton8 Send a private message to Clifton8 Feb 8 2013, 1:27pm
    Weathertop Glum Send a private message to Glum Feb 8 2013, 1:57pm
        Where were the Dunedain? pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Feb 8 2013, 2:02pm
            But... Glum Send a private message to Glum Feb 8 2013, 4:50pm
                Barliman mentions the Rangers in the films pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Feb 8 2013, 7:31pm
                    It was about 120 miles from Bree to Weathertop... MadgeBishop Send a private message to MadgeBishop Feb 8 2013, 11:16pm
                        "if he were not guarded ceaselessly pettytyrant101 Send a private message to pettytyrant101 Feb 8 2013, 11:26pm
                            Kind of aside SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Feb 8 2013, 11:29pm

 
 
 

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