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Michelle Johnston
Bree

Feb 8, 11:43pm
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Does the characters actions make sense
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I think you raise a good point. For me its very simple does the character do something that is entirely at odds with your perceptions:- In the LOTR Gandalf is (in my view) misreported in his interactions with Denethor and the Witch King whereas Wormtongue murdered Saruman with the same intent though in a different place. Azog, based on the appendices, is doing exactly what I would expect of him. He has a special hatred for the Dwarves and particularly those of Durins line and by bringing him into the current timeline we see that hatred exercised. In terms of his importance to the story development by retaining him he is more closely tied to Thorin which enables his character to express real time his loathing and hatred for his grand fathers nemesis. I love the moon light scene at Weathertop with the Warg it echoes imagery from the Silmarillion as others have pointed out. On this question of bringing evil so far West there are exchanges in the LOTR book where shire folk refer to evil things on their borders it is never identified but the idea that is more than a few ruffians is clearly intended by Tolkien. Looking at it the other way round it is entirely unlikely that three trolls would come down from the moors in complete isolation. I suspect the non book reader would expect the journey to be invested with jeopardy beyond the lighter more comic intervention with the Trolls. On a more general point one rarely comes across a lover of a book whom isn't in someway disappointed by some element of adaption. These movies are huge and so that concern is magnified. However if we do approach these adaptions in an organisational sense I suspect we will be very disappointed. I am not because I leave the film makers to do their job and I simply react instinctively to the characters and what they do within Tolkiens wonderfully realised world.
I tried to save the shire , and it has been but not for me.
(This post was edited by Michelle Johnston on Feb 8, 11:45pm)
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azog in the hobbit
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trqn13
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Feb 8, 10:18am
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azog
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andwise
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Feb 8, 1:24pm
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re:
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trqn13
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Feb 8, 2:00pm
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Does the characters actions make sense
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Michelle Johnston
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Feb 8, 11:43pm
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changes.
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andwise
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Feb 9, 1:27am
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love is a strong word
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stoutfiles
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Feb 8, 3:22pm
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ignore??
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andwise
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Feb 9, 1:03am
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My opinion is that it was stupid and luducrous.
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sauget.diblosio
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Feb 9, 4:16am
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re:
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trqn13
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Feb 9, 9:11am
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not sure what you're getting at.
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sauget.diblosio
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Feb 9, 3:13pm
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my bad
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trqn13
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Feb 9, 3:55pm
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ha ha no problem...
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sauget.diblosio
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Feb 9, 5:18pm
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well...
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andwise
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Feb 10, 12:51am
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ok
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trqn13
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Feb 10, 2:51pm
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indeed
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andwise
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Feb 10, 7:35pm
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opinions
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andwise
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Feb 10, 12:42am
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First off,
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sauget.diblosio
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Feb 10, 5:57pm
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no i didnt
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andwise
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Feb 10, 7:28pm
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ok.
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Clifton8
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Feb 8, 1:27pm
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Weathertop
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Glum
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Feb 8, 1:57pm
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Where were the Dunedain?
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pettytyrant101
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Feb 8, 2:02pm
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But...
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Glum
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Feb 8, 4:50pm
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Barliman mentions the Rangers in the films
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pettytyrant101
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Feb 8, 7:31pm
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It was about 120 miles from Bree to Weathertop...
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MadgeBishop
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Feb 8, 11:16pm
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"if he were not guarded ceaselessly
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pettytyrant101
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Feb 8, 11:26pm
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Kind of aside
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SirDennisC
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Feb 8, 11:29pm
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