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Feb 6 2013, 9:29am


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And thank you for posting!

The Erebor flashback was AWESOME

It shifts the emphasis of the story from Bilbo to Thorin though. Just like the inclusion of the battle of Azanulbizar did.
I'm not sure if it is for better or worse - but the title seems a bit wrong.

He liked all the wizards (yep, all three -- Saruman included).

Okay, I believe you he doesn't remember LotR.
Saruman is a very nice guy in An Unexpected Journey. The only reason not to like him is because we know he's going to turn traitor soon.
(And those who have read The Tale of Years and Unfinished Tales know he is already one, but that is a weakness of Tolkien's story)

He asked with interest about the blue wizards and whether they were going to appear in the next movie.
Don't give Jackson et.al. any more ideas!

He was not quite sure if Galadriel was also a wizard.
This movie is from the dwarves perspective, isn't it? Remember movie-Gimli's line about "an elvish witch wielding great powers"?

On the other hand, Gandalf's reverence to her is a bit odd.

His favorite wizard was Radagast, who he thought was very entertaining.
I think so too, although Saruman's insinuation regarding mushrooms sounded too BotR to me. Also, what does that make LotR-Pippin?
On the other hand, the same Saruman will later trash Gandalf for smoking - and turn traitor himself. That's as counter-culture as can be, don't you think?

Liked the bunny sled and the hedgehog.

I loved the hedgehog myself.
Regarding the bunny sled - well, I dropped off this board a few days before the premier; but what I've read here before this already prepared me for, and prejudiced me against it. My reaction to it was "I quite expected something far worst".

Felt that The Company was totally useless and kept getting themselves into trouble and always had to wait for Gandalf to save the day.

The actually did fight, unlike the book-Company who were dumb enough not to bring any weapons.
Now these folks were totally useless! Are you sure your boyfriend wasn't reading the book?

Gollum was great.

He still has the Ring. Remember The Passing of the Marshes?

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No, sweet one. See, my precious: if we has it, then we can escape, even for Him, eh? Perhaps we grows very strong, stronger than Wraiths. Lord Smeagol? Gollum the Great? The Gollum? Eat fish every day, three times a day, fresh from the sea, Most Precious Gollum! Must have it. We wants it, we wants it, we wants it!



There was too much killing (!) He was wondering why they had to kill everything they came across: trolls, goblins, wargs (which he thought were wolves; he did not like it when he thought they were killing animals)
That's fantasy stuff. Personally, I don't like it myself - although when I was younger I guess I did.

And wargs are wolves.

Overall, the movie was entertaining to watch, but the main problem was that he felt that nothing happened, and it was just a series of the same thing (company gets into trouble with some enemy, Gandalf saves them, repeat).
That's a fair criticism - of the book, too.
The best explanation I have heard was that in the first chapters Tolkien was establishing middle-earth for the reader. As long as viewers see The Hobbit after The Lord of the Rings, it will feel as if nothing is properly happening.

He looks forward to seeing more of the dragon in the next film.
Yeah, I think that was a good one - the movie both began and ended with Smaug, but still we don't really know what he looks like. Excellent!


Thank you for posting this!



Subject User Time
Comments from a non-fan Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 5 2013, 4:14pm
    sweet! swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Feb 5 2013, 4:27pm
    An episodic story is perfect Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 5 2013, 4:31pm
    Too much killing Yva Send a private message to Yva Feb 5 2013, 5:58pm
        My thoughts Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 6 2013, 2:49am
            But wait... Gelir Send a private message to Gelir Feb 6 2013, 4:28am
                Heh Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 6 2013, 5:06am
                    No sympathy for goblins :) Gelir Send a private message to Gelir Feb 7 2013, 4:41am
                The Goblin Town sequence was too long. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Feb 6 2013, 5:11am
                    Agree sevilodorf Send a private message to sevilodorf Feb 7 2013, 2:35am
        There were moments when it was too graphic. Thror really stands out. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 6 2013, 4:51am
    Interesting// Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 5 2013, 6:05pm
    nice to hear... andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 5 2013, 8:17pm
        Spouses, my husband... glor Send a private message to glor Feb 6 2013, 2:29am
            I laughed out loud at 'proper blokes' Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 6 2013, 5:14am
                Yap Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 6 2013, 8:37am
                well My husband is a 'proper bloke', born in the East End of London.. glor Send a private message to glor Feb 6 2013, 12:23pm
            ROFL Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 6 2013, 5:10pm
                Too funny! Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 6 2013, 8:11pm
                    He read it :-)?! Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 7 2013, 4:01pm
                        Well, I figure he did... Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 7 2013, 8:25pm
                            I used to think entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Feb 7 2013, 9:40pm
                                Who wouldn't Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 7 2013, 11:01pm
                                    TMI, Ro entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Feb 7 2013, 11:04pm
                the weird thing is... glor Send a private message to glor Feb 7 2013, 1:19am
                    BIGWIT! lol! // Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 7 2013, 4:07pm
    The sheer amount of Goblin hacking is overwhelming Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Feb 6 2013, 1:26am
    All right. I think that is a fair read. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 6 2013, 4:01am
        Yep Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 6 2013, 5:10am
    Nice to read! sador Send a private message to sador Feb 6 2013, 9:29am
    Blue wizards will never appear because of film rights stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 6 2013, 1:31pm
        Even the fact that they are "blue" Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 6 2013, 1:51pm
            Be quiet AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 6 2013, 9:53pm
                Naturally, no! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 6 2013, 11:09pm
                    lol. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 7 2013, 12:19am
    interesting insight FrogmortonJustice65 Send a private message to FrogmortonJustice65 Feb 6 2013, 3:56pm
        Troll "battle"/book version arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 6 2013, 4:46pm

 
 
 

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