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Thrilled the Pinecones were included. . . but they could have been more impressively managed, and being true to the book would have made it so.

AinurOlorin
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Feb 5 2013, 7:17am


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Thrilled the Pinecones were included. . . but they could have been more impressively managed, and being true to the book would have made it so. Can't Post

I don't mean the scene as a whole. I think having the tree dangling actually made it more plausible for Gandalf to do less, and that worked for me. My issue is with how the pinecones themselves were handled. First, I am glad they made it in at all. It is the sort of thing I could have seen Peter cutting, and I am glad that didn't happen. HOWEVER. . . I know Peter's long history of claiming to dislike pyrotechnic displays, especially because they can come off looking tacky. And yet, by making the pinecone fires less spectacular, he makes them look more gimmicky and tacky than they would have given a more impressive treatment. They are effective, but more comic and less spectacular than they easily could have been. Following the books colour change to blue would have done alot for them, but it also would have aided if the first, the one thrown by Gandalf, had exhibited some minor concussive/explosive force upon hitting the ground. Nothing ridiculous, but a bursting effect with the appropriate auditory. The end result would have been essentially the same, but it would have made for a better show.

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Thrilled the Pinecones were included. . . but they could have been more impressively managed, and being true to the book would have made it so. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 5 2013, 7:17am
    Really? Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 5 2013, 8:14am
        Would that have been bad? Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 5 2013, 11:50am
            One of the things... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 5 2013, 12:28pm
                I think those things could have worked Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 5 2013, 3:05pm
                Blue flame is commonly seen in everyday life. There are extremely large and hot Blue Stars. Any gas stove lights up more blue than anything. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 5 2013, 10:21pm
                    Fire Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 6 2013, 8:20am
            You can get a green flame or other colours eg purple imin Send a private message to imin Feb 5 2013, 1:05pm
                Ah, I stand corrected. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 5 2013, 3:03pm
            No, actually, not necessarily. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 5 2013, 8:23pm
                Ah, ok. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 5 2013, 10:43pm
        less is more swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Feb 5 2013, 4:31pm
        I was never in the realism howling choir anyway. No mortal knows the fundemental nature of reality, and if I wanted a more everyday experience AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 5 2013, 10:15pm
    Now that you've mentioned it Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 5 2013, 1:27pm
    could not disagree more Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Feb 5 2013, 1:40pm
    Would have improved the scene stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 5 2013, 2:54pm
        Yeah the angry hug is the cheesiest part imin Send a private message to imin Feb 5 2013, 3:01pm
        Well... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 5 2013, 5:38pm
        Thank you. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 5 2013, 10:27pm
    A little color might hve been nice Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 5 2013, 6:08pm
    big mistake jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn Feb 6 2013, 11:29am
        LMAO "If it wasn't mentioned, we would have gotten it" AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 6 2013, 9:40pm
    I don't think different color fire would have looked 'magical' Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 6 2013, 4:43pm
        ooh jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn Feb 6 2013, 5:05pm
        I am an American. And blue fire still says magic to me. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 6 2013, 9:48pm
            I loved the blue light in Goblin Town Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 6 2013, 11:32pm
                And that is why I stuck with blue. The Animated version (and even a videogame version of The Hobbit) AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 7 2013, 12:08am
                    photoshop job jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn Feb 7 2013, 10:43am
                        lol AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 7 2013, 4:25pm
            Gandalf didn't feel lessened Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 7 2013, 4:34pm
                I am not saying it was baaaaad. And I am glad it was in at all, as I have said. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 7 2013, 4:52pm
                    Its all good Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 7 2013, 5:40pm

 
 
 

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