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Peter Jackson on DOS


Feb 4 2013, 5:46pm

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Peter Jackson on DOS Can't Post

Has anyone seen yesterdays TV 3 Firstline News ?!

I zapped in to late but there was PJ as guest talking a bit about whats coming up in DoS and some details about the storyline. But i only saw the last minute FrownFrownFrown

Which was interesting enough ! He mentioned that they have shoot a lot of scenes with Gandalf originally planed to be in AUJ. I know,nothing new or special ;) BUT he said that there are some key-scenes for the second movie which explain a lot concerning Gandalfs Backstory. He said something like "He is exploring dark crypts and also has to face a driven mad dwarf on a really creepy old fortress. " After that a short snip of the Carrock was shown and than the interview was over.

Really interesting to me how PJ plans to involve the Tombs in DoS..any ideas how that could work ?! Because so far i thought we would see that in the EE...

Just wanted to post it,maybe anyone else has seen the whole show...

(This post was edited by NoelGallagher on Feb 4 2013, 5:48pm)

Tol Eressea

Feb 4 2013, 7:19pm

Post #2 of 11 (927 views)
Hes referring to the [In reply to] Can't Post

Dol Guldur dungeons where he meets thrain, not the ringwraiths tombs, which might be in the EE.

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Feb 4 2013, 8:53pm

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Hmm [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe he eplores the tombs in the second film after he leaves the dwarves, but according to the Weta chronicles book he explores that with Radagast, so yeah maybe that's in the extended edition of the first film, and Gandalf encountering Thrain is in the second one.
But then how would that work, if Gandalf got the key and map off Thrain..... unless it's the opening flashback scene of the next film.

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Feb 4 2013, 9:25pm

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Someone! [In reply to] Can't Post

I hope someone can post a link of those comments from PJ. I am quite thirsty for some DOS news!



Feb 4 2013, 9:54pm

Post #5 of 11 (664 views)
Why can't Gandalf explore the tombs with Radagast in the second film? [In reply to] Can't Post


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Feb 4 2013, 10:03pm

Post #6 of 11 (609 views)
of course he can... [In reply to] Can't Post

...but its strange that the tombs are already in the artbook.
and no, PJ mentioned the tombs and Thrain separatly ;-)

Tol Eressea

Feb 5 2013, 5:00am

Post #7 of 11 (451 views)
its not going to be in the AUJ EE [In reply to] Can't Post

-Gandalf in the tombs/dol-guldur, Philippa Boyens has confirmed that the sequence will now be featured in DOS.

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Feb 5 2013, 6:55am

Post #8 of 11 (424 views)
The Tombs and Dol Guldur are seperate though. I was rather hoping that Tombs would [In reply to] Can't Post

be left in EE and Dol Guldur more focused on in Desolation of Smaug, hopefully with at least some of the Wraiths still being in Dol Guldur, like the one who attacked Radagast. . . but with Gandalf giving a more astounding responsive attack than Radagasts effective but subtle one.

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-Gandalf in the tombs/dol-guldur, Philippa Boyens has confirmed that the sequence will now be featured in DOS.

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Michelle Johnston

Feb 5 2013, 2:27pm

Post #9 of 11 (354 views)
Great News [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you for the heads up. I am delighted to hear this confirmed. The art work for the tombs segment looked most impressive and as I had hoped, it looks like Gandalfs first visit to Dol Gulder and encounter with Thrain will echo the appendices but go real time.

I do not think it is to much of a stretch for Thrains back story up until his incarceration to act as the prologue to DOS because it adds depth to both the plot (how did Gandalf get the key and map and how did Azog know to be at Weathertop and what happened to Thrain at TBOA) and it gives momentum to the sub plot. The tombs may be done as exposition in the Beorn chapter. I have just re read the book chapter in which he warns the company he must leave them. In the movie when they ask him to stay he may explain what happened after he left Rivendell and as we heard in a vlog "I must leave I needs answers".

As an aside when I was in Glenorchy last week I sat in one of Beorns chairs which have been placed in the forest near paradise by the film company. That whole perspective thing really works so well.

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(This post was edited by Michelle Johnston on Feb 5 2013, 2:29pm)

Tol Eressea

Feb 6 2013, 2:38am

Post #10 of 11 (225 views)
the one which attacked Gandalf... [In reply to] Can't Post

was the Witch-king. I believe Miss Boyens was referring to both the tombs and dol-guldur but we'll see....we need a AUJ EE trailer!!

take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty, oh will you please take me home!!


Feb 6 2013, 11:40am

Post #11 of 11 (373 views)
We can not be entirely sure [In reply to] Can't Post

the one which attacked Gandalf... was the Witch-king.

Yes, in the council scene ,Galadriel says 'the dagger was made for the Witch king' but the wraith that attacked Radagast may not be him.
-Geeky observation- If you pay attention to the wraith's crown you will see that it is not the same crown that the Witch king wears in Weathertop in the trilogy...it rather belongs to another nazgul.

witch kinghttp://i4.photobucket.com/...witchkingresized.jpg

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