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A-peelin' bananas, a-peelin' oranges...

Grey Havens

Feb 2 2013, 10:36pm

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A-peelin' bananas, a-peelin' oranges... [In reply to] Can't Post

I wonder, do dwarves eat fruit? I bet Dwalin doesn't. Oh, sorry, I'm easily distracted...

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It could have been more groundbreaking to see Armitage in the Dwarf makeup and he could have been nominated for best supporting actor. They completely immersed themsleves in their roles at the expense of their looks and critics widley acclaim them.When people say Hot Dwarves have been accomplished i disagree.If they had made them look like Real Dwarves i'm sure they'd still be good looking. To be honest i think that having thorin looking too human has hurt his oscar nomination chances and critics have bashed the film for that reason before saying that the Dwarves were too human looking.

But Armitage *was* in dwarf makeup. From his eyes upwards, plus a nose, and all that lovely hair. Plus the extra padding of the fat suit. I could concede your point if you tried to argue that Kili looks rather human (not that I'll complain about that, either), but I think Thorin looks perfectly dwarfish. He's got a short beard for reasons that are very appropriate to his character, and other than that, I don't think he deviates from stereotype all that much. Who ever said dwarves couldn't be good-looking, anyway? And what does a Real Dwarf look like? Aren't dwarves just fantasy characters whose appearance matches some archetype imagined by us? Why can't we imagine the archetype a little differently? There's no right or wrong here, just our imaginations. And I'm (now) perfectly fine with shifting my mental dwarfish archetype to include the possibility of attractiveness.

Have you read any interviews with Armitage? I don't think you could find another actor in all of the LOTR trilogy or in AUJ who more fully immerses himself in the character, with the possible exception of Viggo Mortenson. Being in full costume appears to help Armitage immerse himself completely; I read one interview with him where he said he hated having to go on set without having his makeup and costume fully done, and that if he had to do so, he'd pull up his hood so no one could see him incomplete. He wanted -- needed -- everyone on set, crew included, to believe he was Thorin. And it sounded like he stayed in character the entire time he was on set.

I don't think Thorin's looks have anything to do with Oscar nominations. It was pretty much a given that AUJ wouldn't get the big Oscar nods; I'm sure that the big nods will be saved for TABA, similar to how it was for the LOTR trilogy. And with an ensemble cast like this, it's not very likely that anyone's going to get a supporting actor nod anyways, no matter how good they are. Unfortunately. I think Armitage deserves at least a nomination. I can only assume he'll keep up the fantastic, nuanced performance through to the end, so maybe he'll get the recognition I think he deserves in TABA.

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Do you think they could have still made the Dwarves appealing Thorins_apprentice Send a private message to Thorins_apprentice Feb 2 2013, 2:45pm
    This wasn't really an "Oscar" movie... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 2 2013, 3:42pm
    I second the opinion that this wasn't an Oscar movie Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 2 2013, 6:05pm
    Oscars glor Send a private message to glor Feb 2 2013, 6:54pm
        plus the oscars are very political julia0925 Send a private message to julia0925 Feb 5 2013, 4:25pm
    Thorin is a dwarf Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 2 2013, 7:15pm
        Of course he is! Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 2 2013, 8:04pm
            Exactly. In LOTR, Gimli stood out. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Feb 2 2013, 8:20pm
                height difference between hobbits and dwarves Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 2 2013, 8:33pm
                    In Brian Sibley's book, the Official Movie Guide, he talks about the size Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 3 2013, 6:04am
                gimlii fitted in TH mefansmum Feb 3 2013, 3:41am
            Dwarves... why did it have to be Dwarves... swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Feb 3 2013, 8:40pm
                Thanks! and.... Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 3 2013, 10:10pm
                it was necessary to put the audience in the Hobbit/Dwarf viewpoint... glor Send a private message to glor Feb 6 2013, 1:32am
    A-peelin' bananas, a-peelin' oranges... Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 2 2013, 10:36pm
        yeah marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Feb 3 2013, 3:12am
            noses Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 3 2013, 3:22am
        I love that video you linked to in another thread Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 3 2013, 5:30pm
            Got North and South Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 3 2013, 10:51pm
    Absolutely. The talent to pull it off is there, from acting and writing to design, and everything in-between. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 3 2013, 12:15am
    Oh cripes... they're awesome! grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 3 2013, 8:35pm
    For some people, yes. For others, no. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 5 2013, 4:38pm
        POV swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Feb 6 2013, 6:20am
    Easily aarondirebear Send a private message to aarondirebear Feb 12 2013, 7:53pm


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