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Agreed. Dissapointing how, to whom, and from what perspective? I

AinurOlorin
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Feb 2 2013, 3:28am


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also take issue with some of these "journalists", who, not unlike certain media pundits, speak with an almost "voice of God" authority about entirely subjective matters. . . or when they are actually factually in error. I enjoyed it IMMENSELY, with some caveats concerning very specific incidents. I believe that was the case for many ardent fans, and for many more casual fans. Indeed, a great many casual fans seem to have enjoyed An Unexpected Journey more than Rings, due to the easier to follow material and more jovial tone. But. . . you know. . . haters gonna hate. I don't mind constructive criticism of the films or of Jackson et al. I have it myself, and there have been and doubtless will continue to be choices of theres and stances that will annoy me, and in some cases even leave me apoplectic with outrage. Yet I can seperate my specific irritation or even disgust over certain smaller aspects from the movies as a whole. And if the overall effect is good, I am not going to label it a bad movie because I hated some line, omission or questionable aspects of a scene. I can say it is a less great film than it might have been. . . but that is about it.

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.... and my reaction was that the whole thing is based on a false premise. The writer, whoever he or she might be, begins by assuming a concensus view on the film. 'Let's be honest, the new Hobbit film is disappointing at best' or words to that effect, going on the say that the majority know this to be true, and so on. Well, who says?

That 'let's be honest' lost me from the start. If I were to go along with an argument that began in that way I'd be lying. I wasn't disappointed by the new film, I thoroughly enjoyed it. And I've known and loved the book for almost half a century. My brother, who is older than me, also enjoyed it, as did his son (20-something) and a number of other friends. I know some people enjoyed it with reservations, or only enjoyed bits of it, or were disappointed and didn't enjoy it at all - but I'm not in a position to say which group are in the majority and I can't see how the writer of the article is in a position to say it either. Which makes the rest of his/her argument fall very flat. 'A sense of fatigue' ... 'current boredom with the movies'.... 'if the general population feel oversaturated at this stage and box office takings plummet'.... I'm beginning to feel as if I'm reading about a different film here - after all, is The Hobbit not doing rather well at the box office?

A Tolkien museum in Oxford would be an interesting idea in its own right. But the notion of funding a museum with the takings of a film which the writer dislikes so much is bizarre - and as for the roller coaster ride into Mount Doom - words fail (as they do at the suggestion that the Tolkien Estate is happy with the idea of a theme park. Words fail - is this meant to be a serious article?

Anyway, here's the link


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The Jackson Quibble: Is the new Hobbit flick harming the greater good? imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 12:59pm
    Good and bad stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 1 2013, 1:34pm
    Anecdotal evidence arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 1 2013, 1:41pm
        What do you think about the idea imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 1:48pm
    Here's a link, Imin. ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 1 2013, 1:46pm
        Thanks imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 1:50pm
            Speaking of Oxford.... ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 1 2013, 1:57pm
    I saw that.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 1 2013, 1:59pm
        Not gonna bother now Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 1 2013, 2:06pm
        Why would that be bizarre? imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 2:11pm
            Bizarre? dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 1 2013, 3:48pm
                They are getting that money anyway imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 3:55pm
                    Fair enough dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 1 2013, 3:56pm
        wel said dormouse! andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 1 2013, 8:34pm
        Agreed. Dissapointing how, to whom, and from what perspective? I AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 2 2013, 3:28am
        I had the same reaction to that opening line ... "let's be honest ... " ... Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 3 2013, 4:59pm
    Aren't people taking these movies WAAAAY too seriously? bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 1 2013, 2:14pm
        It is too serious imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 2:54pm
            As far as CT is concerned... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 1 2013, 3:19pm
                It's called first world problems, lol imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 3:35pm
                    Exactly first world problems :) bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 1 2013, 3:53pm
                        You know what i think that is kinda what it is for me imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 3:59pm
                            It does end eventually Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 1 2013, 4:16pm
                                For me... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 1 2013, 4:40pm
                                    I understand that Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 1 2013, 5:04pm
                                    Try the BBC Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 1 2013, 5:42pm
                            Imin... Unlikely Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Feb 1 2013, 4:18pm
                                Cheers Bomby and Elessar :) imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 4:44pm
                                    Cheers Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 1 2013, 5:11pm
                    You know. . . you'd be surprised. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 2 2013, 3:57am
                        I have noticed the same. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 3 2013, 4:57pm
                very well put.. andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 1 2013, 8:47pm
    We have our own Tolkien culture Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 1 2013, 3:46pm
    I was quite puzzled Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Feb 1 2013, 4:28pm
        Solution? Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Feb 1 2013, 4:39pm
        I agree - geordie Send a private message to geordie Feb 2 2013, 10:41am
            Manuscripts do not a museum make Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Feb 2 2013, 3:13pm
                True dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 2 2013, 3:55pm
                True enough - geordie Send a private message to geordie Feb 2 2013, 5:53pm
    Harm? *snorts* No... not at all Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 1 2013, 6:52pm
    This article lost all credibility Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Feb 1 2013, 7:05pm
    To be frank Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 1 2013, 7:18pm
    Adaption verses Re-imagining Michelle Johnston Feb 1 2013, 9:11pm
        Should we listen to Critics IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 1 2013, 9:37pm
    How is this any different from what happened in the 1960s? Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 1 2013, 9:53pm
        Things change hutch Send a private message to hutch Feb 2 2013, 2:45am
    I'm just going to repeat what others have said... Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 2 2013, 4:44am
    I bought a friend the Children of Hurin for their birthday because they liked AUJ. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 3 2013, 5:04pm

 
 
 

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