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a "most" dangerous discussion

rangerfromthenorth
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Feb 1 2013, 3:32pm


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Squire, you are right and I am sorry for throwing out "most" so carelessly without defining, I was referring to most Tolkien scholars and other Bombadil theorists I have read recognize that not all of Tolkien's works bear the same authority in a final assesment of his world. Perhaps canon is poor term.

But what I mean is this is, Tolkien wrote many things when trying to formulate his world and many things never made the final cut. For instance, there many different versions of the Fall of Gondolin that have been publlished before the final version came out in the Silmarrillion. Within these versions are many contradictions, as with any writing project, for instance early on there hundreds of Balrogs later Tolkien decided that there should only be few.
The Hobbit also went through different versions of how bilbo got the ring, the authoritative version is the final one.

Tolkien wrote in many of his letters that he was seeking to create a consistent world that is why so many versions came about and were constantly being refined. So by canon what I meant is that the authority rests with his final completed work of the world including the Hobbit, LOTR, and the Silmarrillion. On top of that any official intrepration Tolkien gives in his letters is clearly authoritative.

The adventures of Tom Bombadil were not written purely to be in Middle Earth so the the context needs to be remembered but even within them there is no contradiction to Tom being any of the theories. So essentially what I am saying is that we need to understand the context of each of Tolkien's writings all of them shed light but some of them are of higher authority and some of lesser when it comes to Middle Earth.

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Tom Bombadil As the Spirit of the Music of the Ainur rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jan 17 2013, 4:27pm
    Thanks for this! Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Jan 17 2013, 8:57pm
    Great Theory Lost_istari Send a private message to Lost_istari Jan 18 2013, 7:56pm
        Thank you much rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jan 22 2013, 2:07pm
        Agreed CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 23 2013, 5:53pm
            A quick thought on children of Ainur Lost_istari Send a private message to Lost_istari Jan 24 2013, 6:46am
    Excellent theory! FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Jan 23 2013, 9:13pm
        Thank You rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jan 23 2013, 9:33pm
    Regarding Bombadil's boundedness Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Jan 28 2013, 5:59am
    I Know Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Jan 30 2013, 8:38pm
    "None has yet defined him, for Tom is an enigma" squire Send a private message to squire Jan 31 2013, 1:27am
        Great poem/ CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 31 2013, 1:34am
        Great Poem Indeed rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jan 31 2013, 2:29am
            It is certainly a great topic to debate squire Send a private message to squire Feb 1 2013, 3:14am
                a "most" dangerous discussion rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Feb 1 2013, 3:32pm
                    ATB was published after LOTR. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 1 2013, 5:55pm
                        yes yes it was rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Feb 1 2013, 6:14pm
                        thats where the confusion came from rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Feb 1 2013, 6:22pm
                            Tolkien did alter the poem for its 1962 re-publication. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 1 2013, 7:51pm
                    Very nicely stated squire Send a private message to squire Feb 1 2013, 8:38pm
    This may interest you. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 1 2013, 5:46am

 
 
 

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