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Question regarding Dwarves being considered "of age".

Boromir Stark
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Feb 1 2013, 11:58am


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I have been wondering recently about the age at which Dwarves are considered mature and "battle-ready".

At the time of LotR, Gimli is, I believe, around 125 years old. This means that at the time of The Hobbit, he would have been about 65. Now, some have suggested that the reason's for Gimli's non-participation in the Quest for Erebor was that he was not yet mature and at the age at which a Dwarf is considered battle-ready (what this age is supposed to be I have no idea, but I would harbour a guess at 70ish, since that is what age Fili and Kili are, roughly.)

Consider this though - about 150 years prior to the Quest for Erebor, a young Dain Ironfoot not only took part in the Battle of Azanulbizar, he single-handedly defeated and slew the Orcs leader, Azog. This was considered a great achievment not because he slew Azog, but because he was so incredibly young when he done it. At the time of this event, Dain was only 32 years old, which in Dwarf years is considered very young and several decades shy of what is believed to be battle-readiness.

So, what's the deal? Gimli is apprarently too young to take part in the Quest for Erebor, yet Dain Ironfoot fights in an arguably more danagerous scenario in the Battle of Azanulbizar at half the age?

I've saw some people say that the reason for Gimli not accompanying his father on the Quest was because their had to be an heir left behind to carry on the line should Gloin perish. And at first I thought "ok, that seems logical." Only, it doesn't. By that logic Dain should have stayed at home while Nain fought against the orcs Crazy

Anyone got any thoughts on this? It's not particularly important in the grand scheme of things, but it has been on my mind for some time.

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Question regarding Dwarves being considered "of age". Boromir Stark Send a private message to Boromir Stark Feb 1 2013, 11:58am
    It was a suicide quest stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 1 2013, 1:47pm
        Whereas the War of Dwarves and Orcs... Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 1 2013, 1:59pm
            I thought this may have been the case. Boromir Stark Send a private message to Boromir Stark Feb 1 2013, 3:36pm
    Gimli did indeed stay home because he was too young. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 1 2013, 1:47pm
    It may be more of a matter of perceived maturity than actual age... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 1 2013, 3:32pm
        Movie Gimli hutch Send a private message to hutch Feb 2 2013, 2:57am
        I think so Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 2 2013, 4:33am
    Well, maybe florian Send a private message to florian Feb 1 2013, 4:15pm
        Good point. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Feb 1 2013, 4:30pm
            Have to agree IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 1 2013, 9:47pm
        Every child is a blessing. Fishbug Send a private message to Fishbug Feb 1 2013, 7:20pm
            I'm not familiar with this. What is it? florian Send a private message to florian Feb 1 2013, 8:47pm

 
 
 

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