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It is certainly a great topic to debate

squire
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Feb 1 2013, 3:14am


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It is certainly a great topic to debate [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for your compliment about my verse.

I am curious about your assertion that "most do not consider" The Adventures of Tom Bombadil to be "canon". One, who are these people and how do we know they are "most", so to speak? And two, why is a concept like "canon" useful when discussing Tolkien's imaginarium, in comparison to the concept of stating one's sources, acknowledging the publishing history of the works in question, and using sound logic and fair methods of argument? I have always thought the idea is more applicable to publishing ventures with multiple authors than it is to the works of a solitary genius like Tolkien, whose mind was always torn between the constraints of a neat consistency and his driving need to be able to re-imagine his world as he saw fit over many decades of world-creation.

For instance, if the question is "Who is Tom Bombadil?", yet the book of poems named after the character is excluded from "evidence" in seeking an answer (while the Silmarillion is oddly admitted to the party), then surely the question needs to be narrowed to "Who is Tom Bombadil in The Lord of the Rings?". A second discussion would then be called for, entitled "Who is Tom Bombadil in 'Bombadil Goes A-Boating' and 'The Adventures of Tom Bombadil'?" Some corollary discussions that devolve from there could be "Who is Farmer Maggot in 'Bombadil Goes A-Boating'?" and "Who is Old Man Willow in 'The Adventures of Tom Bombadil'?" Obviously I'm not being very serious here, but my point is that using the "canon" idea to delimit discussions of Tolkien seems excessively complicated and unhelpful!



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Tom Bombadil As the Spirit of the Music of the Ainur rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jan 17 2013, 4:27pm
    Thanks for this! Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Jan 17 2013, 8:57pm
    Great Theory Lost_istari Send a private message to Lost_istari Jan 18 2013, 7:56pm
        Thank you much rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jan 22 2013, 2:07pm
        Agreed CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 23 2013, 5:53pm
            A quick thought on children of Ainur Lost_istari Send a private message to Lost_istari Jan 24 2013, 6:46am
    Excellent theory! FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Jan 23 2013, 9:13pm
        Thank You rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jan 23 2013, 9:33pm
    Regarding Bombadil's boundedness Plurmo Send a private message to Plurmo Jan 28 2013, 5:59am
    I Know Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Jan 30 2013, 8:38pm
    "None has yet defined him, for Tom is an enigma" squire Send a private message to squire Jan 31 2013, 1:27am
        Great poem/ CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 31 2013, 1:34am
        Great Poem Indeed rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Jan 31 2013, 2:29am
            It is certainly a great topic to debate squire Send a private message to squire Feb 1 2013, 3:14am
                a "most" dangerous discussion rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Feb 1 2013, 3:32pm
                    ATB was published after LOTR. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 1 2013, 5:55pm
                        yes yes it was rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Feb 1 2013, 6:14pm
                        thats where the confusion came from rangerfromthenorth Send a private message to rangerfromthenorth Feb 1 2013, 6:22pm
                            Tolkien did alter the poem for its 1962 re-publication. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 1 2013, 7:51pm
                    Very nicely stated squire Send a private message to squire Feb 1 2013, 8:38pm
    This may interest you. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 1 2013, 5:46am

 
 
 

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