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geordie
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Jan 30 2013, 11:01am
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Photographs observed
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Just seen this on the interweb -
Click here.
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dernwyn
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Jan 30 2013, 11:29am
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Yes indeed, lovely!  Thank you!
Do you know what the occasions were, that he was photographed in that 1961 session (was that for a book photo) and the two of them in 1966 (was that one of the interviews)? Which book is he "reading" to Edith?
Nice pic of Rayner! But those Hobbit production pics - what in the world is Gandalf wearing, and why did they dress the Dwarves in Roman armor! 
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geordie
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Jan 30 2013, 1:48pm
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They are fine photos. According to the Scull-Hammond, the first set were taken in 1961. They weren't exactly for any special occassion: what happened was that Pamela Chandler wrote to Allen & Unwin to ask if she could make a series of photographs of authors whom they published. A&U passed the request on to Tolkien, and there we are. Several of the photos taken that day have been used in books - one of my favourites (not shown on the page I linked to, for some reason) is in a book just by my hand, here: 'English and Medieval Studies Presented to JRR Tolkien on the Occassion of his Seventieth Birthday'.
The second series was taken in August 1966 - I'd always assumed they were taken to mark Ronald and Edith's Golden Wedding Anniversary, but no - that was in March. Anyway, they are another fine set.
Tolkien liked Chandler - though he jokingly remarked in a letter to Rayner Unwin: '(she) inflicted such blistering lights on me, and held the poses until I was nearly stunned. So that I felt like a boiled or grilled owl, and think I look rather like one in most of the resulting pictures'.
(Scull & Hammond, Vol.II p.153)
BTW - the book in Tolkien's hand is the 1st Japanese ed. of The Hobbit. (which I don't own a copy of, dagnabbit).
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 30 2013, 2:19pm
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Thanks so much for sharing them. Wonderful pictures (I will not comment on the few at the end, other than to say that they do not match my personal imagination of characters from The Hobbit, at all).
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
The Hall of Fire
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dormouse
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Jan 30 2013, 2:51pm
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Well, the ones of JRRT and Edith - I'm a bit bemused by the last three!
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Jan 30 2013, 6:26pm
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I've seen photos of Tolkien smiling. Delightful. :)
Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.
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Lissuin
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Jan 30 2013, 6:42pm
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The Oxford don. Wonderful photos!
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Thank you, geordie. I'd never seen them. Nice to have so many together with Edith in their garden.
I had to giggle at the 3 or 4 photos of the distinguished professor surrounded by books - with a Toby jug prominently placed on the desk, a bit of whimsey not surprising in the author of The Hobbit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...(container)#Toby_Jug
Toby Jug
A Toby Jug - also sometimes known as a Fillpot (or Philpot) - is a pottery jug in the form of a seated person, or the head of a recognizable person (often an English king). Typically the seated figure is a heavily-set, jovial man holding a mug of beer in one hand and a pipe of tobacco in the other and wearing 18th century attire: a long coat and a tricorn hat.
That sounds just like a hobbit, doesn't it?
images of Toby jugs: http://www.google.co.nz/...biw=1146&bih=663
And the last photo of the dwarves isn't so far off from the leather and metal look we have in AUJ, though the hair has been improved on, IMHO.
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geordie
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Jan 30 2013, 8:01pm
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- as it happens, I have a set of eight postcards with images from these sets of photos - five colour, the rest in black-and-white. Including one with JRR's toby jug. He used it to knock his pipe tobacco into.
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silneldor
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Jan 30 2013, 10:04pm
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Where did they shots come from out of the blue, after all this time of the limited supply of the professor?.
Geez this is great. Amazing. Never saw a picture of Edith let alone the two of them. This a keeper for favorites. It is like gold.
Where did you found them, come to think of it?
Neat, coolest
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silneldor
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Jan 30 2013, 10:54pm
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With the good shot of him and the view out his window, i think that is a young poplar, but is is hard to determine.
#1188384 i thought he was in the midst of a good belly laugh but then there is another shot with the same posture. It reminds me of the stiff family pictures from the 1800's.
I really like #1188404 with the two of them. Great shot.
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Jan 30 2013, 11:24pm
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Why did these surface? I've never seen them. Did Gollum steal them from a family album and get his revenge on Baggins at last?
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dernwyn
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Jan 31 2013, 1:18am
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Wait a minute - that last picture, the dwarf in the middle...
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...has a Mohawk hairdo! 
So PJ is not the first to have portrayed dwarves with Mohawks!
Does anyone know what production that was, and when it took place?
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Elizabeth
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Jan 31 2013, 4:28am
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Our favorite Adam Dalgliesh!
The production is apparently this one. I'm amazed it's so recent!
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dernwyn
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Jan 31 2013, 11:22am
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Thank you for finding that! If that's the review for the 2001 production, then the photos must be from the earlier 2000 production, as they show Michael Geary as Bilbo and James Earl Adair as Gandalf.
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silneldor
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Jan 31 2013, 11:13pm
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And she was. I thought i go look and see if i could find a youthful picture. No wonder Tolkien was so taken with her.
Here is a link
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geordie
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Feb 1 2013, 1:09pm
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I have a great affection for Ronald and Edith; odd in a way, because I never met them. But I have met some of their family; children, grand-children; great-grandchildren. And I very much 'get' an idea of what they were like.
Here's what Ronald wrote to Christopher after Edith's death (from memory) - 'She was, and knew she was, my Luthien... but now the story has gone wrong and I am left, indeed one-handed. And I cannot plead before the inexorable Mandos.'
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