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Tolkien Forever
Gondor
Jan 30, 8:34pm
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In re-reading TLOR's for the 69th time, I came upon something ~ or it dawned on me for the first time, that something ain't right...
Firstly, The Fellowship enters Moria & Gollum starts following them, correct?
How the heck does Gollum get out of Moria and follow the company?
For starters, he's following the Company & the Chamber of Mazarbul is blocked from behind.
This requires another route...
But, the Bridge of Khazad-Dum has hundreds of Orcs and at least two trolls on that side, & on top of it, collapses, so isn't assessable.
Thirdly, Boromir plainly states that coming down the back way out of the Chamber of Mazarbul, now blocked was the only route: "The fire has cut them off. We are on the wrong side.".. And Gandalf states: "If we had come by the main road down from the upper halls, we should have been trapped here.. Let us hope the fire has cut off the pursuit." (which it indeed has without the trolls aid)
So since Gollum is on the wrong side, filled with Orcs & Trolls, no bridge over the chasm anyhow, how does Gollum get past the Orcs, out of Moria & right back on the remaining members of the Fellowship so quickly?
It seems rather implausible.
To top it off, Gollum arrives in Lorien ahead of the gang of Orcs ~ Frodo sees his pale eyes hours before the orcs arrive & Haldir leads them off..
Any comments/answers?
The Ultimate Tolkien Trivia Quiz: http://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=so-you-want-to-be-tolkien-geek
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Tolkien Forever
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Jan 30, 8:34pm
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The orcs got out rather quickly
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CuriousG
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Jan 30, 8:57pm
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No Time...Plus....
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Tolkien Forever
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Jan 30, 11:00pm
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Assumptions
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Mim
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Jan 30, 11:24pm
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Silly Me
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Tolkien Forever
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Jan 31, 1:24am
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I'm very sorry that Tolkien didn't spell everything out for you.
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Kassandros
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Jan 31, 3:35pm
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My Reply
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Tolkien Forever
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Jan 31, 4:45pm
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explanations and speculation - something the Tolkiens started!
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noWizardme
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Feb 3, 1:18pm
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Other uses of the Bridge of Khazad-dum
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squire
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Feb 3, 2:30pm
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Nice one! I did say "tastes vary!"... //
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noWizardme
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Feb 3, 3:21pm
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A bit of textual backup...
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FarFromHome
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Feb 5, 11:06am
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Really like your post... literal versus literary aspects
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noWizardme
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Feb 5, 11:29am
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About the shafts
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CuriousG
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Feb 5, 2:50pm
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'Rope!' muttered Sam....
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noWizardme
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Feb 5, 5:06pm
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Thanks
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FarFromHome
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Feb 6, 2:05pm
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Excellent, as usual! //
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sador
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Feb 6, 2:34pm
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There are no final answers, but that one is a good one :) //
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noWizardme
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Feb 6, 6:23pm
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The mountain seemed to be riddled with tunnels and passages...
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dormouse
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Jan 30, 11:44pm
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So he beat them all out.
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Elizabeth
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Jan 31, 5:06am
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This +1 //
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Rostron2
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Feb 8, 5:03pm
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