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Dwarven family connections

Aragalen the Green
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Jan 27 2013, 5:22pm


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After my last viewing of AUJ, which I watched with Mr. the Green, he brought up a question I hadn't really thought about. I was explaining to him who Bifur was, and mentioned that Bofur and Bombur are brothers (this I know from reading The Hobbit many times), which very much surprised him! I then realized that the brotherly connections which are explained somewhat in The Hobbit aren't made obvious or even explained in the film (except for Balin and Dwalin, and Fili and Kili). In fact, each Dwarf's character and appearance is made so distinctive that if you don't know the book, you wouldn't realize that there are several sets of brothers; the only brothers that really look alike to me are Gloin and Oin. Bofur and Bombur are brothers (Bifur is their cousin), and Dori, Nori and Ori are brothers, but none of these Dwarves seem to have any kind of family resemblance to each other. I wonder if this will be made clearer in the next 2 movies, as their character development continues?

Did anyone else notice this? Do you think this important enough for PJ to explain, or is it non-essential to the story and plot?

There it is: dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots; some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company, if you don't expect too much.

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Dwarven family connections Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Jan 27 2013, 5:22pm
    I think there should have been more clarification florian Send a private message to florian Jan 27 2013, 5:45pm
        It's not like the book makes all that very clear, either. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 27 2013, 5:56pm
            Hope These Relationships are Clarified IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Jan 27 2013, 7:39pm
                Tolkien... florian Send a private message to florian Jan 27 2013, 7:45pm
        Oin, Gloin, Balin, Dwalin... Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Jan 27 2013, 8:35pm
            How to Number Cousins IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Jan 27 2013, 9:22pm
                What does it mean? florian Send a private message to florian Jan 27 2013, 9:46pm
                    "Removed" refers to previous or later generations than yours. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jan 27 2013, 10:46pm
                        And it is reciprocal arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Jan 28 2013, 3:34am
                    It's a description of Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 28 2013, 8:50am
        Agreed. They could and should have cued in the Fili and Kili kinship to Thorin, just as they did Balin's brotherhood AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 27 2013, 11:10pm
    Very true Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 27 2013, 9:55pm
        Well ryouko Send a private message to ryouko Jan 28 2013, 1:23am
            Seems like a poor choice to me. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 28 2013, 3:03am
                In a faithful adaptation... N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Jan 28 2013, 5:07am
                    That would be incredibly boring to watch... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 28 2013, 7:33pm
    I think they could have focussed on this a bit more. TheSexyBeard Send a private message to TheSexyBeard Jan 27 2013, 10:37pm
    Do you really need the exposition? Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 28 2013, 3:38pm
        I think that them being Thorin's heirs and nephwes. . . and later dying in defense of him AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 28 2013, 8:21pm
            Oh agreed Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 28 2013, 9:54pm
                The relationship between Thorin and Kili Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 28 2013, 10:47pm

 
 
 

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