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Bolg/Mt. Gundabad

The Mitch King
Rohan


Jan 27 2013, 3:50am

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Bolg/Mt. Gundabad Can't Post

In the books Bolg becomes the leader of the orcs after the battle of Azablahblah(not even trying) and goes and reestablishes Mt. Gundabad as the capitol for the orcs of the Misty Mountains. Sooooo has all of this been changed because of Azog's survival and is Bolg going to be nothing but a torturer in Dol Guldur? I ask this because I would love to see Mt. Gundabad somehow and I hope it starts with Azog dying and Bolg taking control in his place and thus going to Gundabad to prep for the BoFA. Thoughts?


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Jan 27 2013, 5:55am

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Gundabad has to be part of the trilogy [In reply to] Can't Post

especially with the expanded story. I hope they show Gundabad, i would think it will come into play prior to BOT5A. Is it confirmed Bolg will be a torturer in dol-guldur??


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Vangalad
Lorien


Jan 27 2013, 10:41am

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Hey, it's not that difficult :) [In reply to] Can't Post

Try it this way :
Aza - nul - bi - zar ..... then, Azanul - bizar
and finally voila! Azanulbizar. CrazyTongue

Back on topic now, I think since 'Gundabad' is mentioned twice in the movie as the place of origin for Azog and the wargs, we are most likely going to see this place preparing for war.
If there will be Azog or Bolg or Azog And Bolg leading the armies, I can not say...


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Not all those who wander are lost,
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Jan 27 2013, 1:38pm

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Haha, [In reply to] Can't Post

I've actually learned that word by now, but it took me some time to memorize it xD
Azanulbizar! (I didn't look it up!)

And yes! I want to see Gundabad! Must be an amazing place for orc-lovers Wink

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Lightice
Lorien

Jan 27 2013, 1:48pm

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It would certainly be cool to see how orcs live without outside interference. [In reply to] Can't Post

However, I wonder how it could be handled in the films. There certainly needs to be more foreshadowing to the orc attack in the Battle of the Five Armies than there is in the book, but you can't lose the element of surprise entirely, either.

Maybe we could have a scene where emissaries of the Necromancer arrive at Gundabad, but the audience won't be exactly privy to what they are doing there until the end?


jimmyfenn
Rohan


Jan 27 2013, 4:26pm

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blackriders [In reply to] Can't Post

 i really dont care much for this orc subplot, and either way it pans ot i think it ll just be ok. we shall see!

it really doenst capture me like the blackriders did in lotr, im afraid to say.

maybe i should just keep that to myself!

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The Mitch King
Rohan


Jan 27 2013, 6:59pm

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Not for sure [In reply to] Can't Post


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Is it confirmed Bolg will be a torturer in dol-guldur??


Just his action figure with Gandalf that says the two meet when Gandalf goes to Dol Guldur. Seems believable.


IdrilofGondolin
Rohan

Jan 27 2013, 7:56pm

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Or [In reply to] Can't Post


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Try it this way :
Aza - nul - bi - zar ..... then, Azanul - bizar
and finally voila! Azanulbizar. CrazyTongue

Back on topic now, I think since 'Gundabad' is mentioned twice in the movie as the place of origin for Azog and the wargs, we are most likely going to see this place preparing for war.
If there will be Azog or Bolg or Azog And Bolg leading the armies, I can not say...


You could just call it the Batle of Nanduhirion and call it a day. Laugh


Loresilme
Valinor


Jan 28 2013, 1:55am

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Or, try this awesome Azanulbizar mnemonic, courtesy of [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 28 2013, 4:19pm

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I think [In reply to] Can't Post

We'll get to see some 'gathering of orc tribes' shown in quick cuts in some way, after the dragon's fall. I doubt there will be specific references to this place or that.


Lio
Lorien


Jan 28 2013, 9:33pm

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Orc muster at Mount Gundabad! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, I'd love to see this! Maybe Azog or Bolg or whoever is around at that point can even give an evil inspirational speech. Speech! SPEECH! And maybe some weeping Orc maidens will see them off (think Faramir's departure in RotK)... okay, I'll stop now.

As for Bolg, I also wonder how he'll be included seeing Azog's expanded role. Maybe they'll both be at the Battle of the Five Armies, with one being killed off first and the other seeking revenge? Or maybe Azog will get all the spotlight and Bolg will stay behind playing video games in the Dol Guldur basement? (Sorry, I know I said I'll stop. Crazy)

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Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 28 2013, 9:56pm

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It would be cool if [In reply to] Can't Post

We saw Bolg disagree with Azog, and knock his head off. "I'm the big boss now, dad!"

 
 

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