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The One Ring...only slightly evil?


Jan 25 2013, 9:05pm

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The One Ring...only slightly evil? Can't Post

The One Ring grants powers to its users, but itself has one very useful power...shrinking and growing!

Shrink: If the Ring was truly evil, it would shrink until it sliced off the users finger. That way, no one could use it but Sauron. Shows them right!

Growth: If the Ring was truly evil, it would grow. Just grow and grow, destroying everything in its destructive wake. Trapped in a cave with Gollum? Just grow! Blow your way out of that mountain with your unbreakable Ring body! It would also have the added benefit of expanding until it reached Mirkwood/Mordor, then once Sauron touched it, shrinking back to his size.

It may mentally torment and abandon its user, but it never kills with its amazing powers. Perhaps the Ring can only shrink and grow to limited sizes though? I've never seen any information detailing its limitations.

(This post was edited by stoutfiles on Jan 25 2013, 9:07pm)


Jan 25 2013, 9:11pm

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It was a rush job [In reply to] Can't Post

Sauron learned about the other rings, and threw together a simple control function. It's not even very fancy, no gems, no spikes, no com devices built in, nothing.


Jan 26 2013, 1:30am

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Sauron designed it that way because [In reply to] Can't Post

he had a problem with yo yo dieting.

"Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's going on. Don't the great tales never end?"

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Jan 26 2013, 2:19am

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Interesting question [In reply to] Can't Post

Interesting question, but I think that just because it doesn't have the ability to inflict great evil itself doesn't mean it doesn't have thoroughly evil intent: intent and ability are two different things. Maybe Sauron deliberately limited the ring's power so that he could maintain control of it - a sort of system over-ride. A bit like people who are spooked by the image of HAL refusing to open the doors for Dave in 2001: A Space Odyssey might make sure that any computer they program can be unplugged Laugh

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Tol Eressea

Jan 26 2013, 2:20am

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LOL :D // [In reply to] Can't Post


"The question isn't where, Constable, but when." - Inspector Spacetime


Jan 27 2013, 3:14am

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This is an incredibly entertaining post. :)// [In reply to] Can't Post


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Jan 29 2013, 4:30pm

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I think the idea that he might ever lose the ring never occured to Sauron. // [In reply to] Can't Post


Happiness: money matters, but less than we think and not in the way that we think. Family is important and so are friends, while envy is toxic -- and so is excessive thinking. Beaches are optional. Trust is not. Neither is gratitude. - The Geography of Bliss by Eric Weiner as summarized by Lily Fairbairn. And a bit of the Hobbit reading thrown in never hurts. - NottaSackville


Jan 29 2013, 5:43pm

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He did consider it according to Tolkien [In reply to] Can't Post

It was discussed in Letter 131. Sauron thought there was zero risk because not only would the Ring not be damaged by normal means, the lust of having it would overwhelm anyone who tried to destroy it.


Jan 30 2013, 11:28pm

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The One Ring [In reply to] Can't Post

A few years ago I wrote an essay called "The Myth of the One Ring's Power" in which I detail some of the Ring's limitations as far as controlling people. I do not believe I dealt with the idea of "shrink" or "grow", but I would think those physical limitations would not be the same as its psychological powers.

It clearly shrank to fit Isildur instead of Sauron, and it shrank again to fit Gollum. Bilbo, Gollum, Frodo and Sam, who were the only ones to wear it after Sauron and Isildur were all hobbits with similar sized fingers. It would only need to get just a little bit larger to slip off a finger. And such is even possible with an ordinary ring, as I have discovered my own wedding ring will sometimes just slide right off, and I assure you it is not a Ring of Power.

I just love thinking about stuff like this. Smile


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