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The Little Details (aka, Ro's been thinking again)

Roheryn
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Jan 23 2013, 10:41am


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All right, I figure we’re not ready yet for another thread about Thorin and his hair (though if I’m wrong, by all means please hijack this thread and I’ll be delighted). So here’s what I’m musing on tonight: I’ve read too many complaints about how PJ & co didn’t follow the book and I haven’t yet seen much attention paid to the little details where PJ *did* follow the book wonderfully closely.

So, I’ve got three questions for you:

1. Have you gone back to re-read The Hobbit since you first saw the movie? If so, has your appreciation of the book changed at all?
2. Have you been particularly struck by any little details in the book (or other source material) that you think were nicely depicted in the movie?

(Please note well that I’m not saying following or not following the book is good or bad or otherwise! And I’m not starting this thread to get into yet another debate about the merits of such!)

My answers:

1. I haven’t re-read the whole thing yet, but have been reading through parts of it, and am reading it from the beginning with my two young boys (for the second time – at their request; we finished reading it the first time about two months before AUJ was released). At the moment, as I read the book, I imagine all the characters in the book as they’re portrayed in the movie; and I find the reading is that much richer an experience. (Thank you, PJ.) I actually care about these Dwarves now, and especially about Thorin.
2. Yes, naturally, or I wouldn’t have asked this! Three in particular I’ve noticed: in the book, Bilbo falls asleep listening to Thorin humming “Far over the Misty Mountains cold…” – exact same lyrics as the first stanza of the song in the movie (no stanza in the poem a few pages earlier has the exact same wording). Note that Thorin is *humming*, just as all the Dwarves do in the movie before Thorin starts singing. I wondered if that line about humming was the inspiration for how the song was done in the movie. Neat.
Also, in a couple of different places, Oin and Gloin are identified as particularly good at starting fires. It is they whom Thorin tells to get a fire going just before the troll scene, and Oin (if I remember right) who wants to start one in the cave just before they fall into Goblin-town.
Finally, when rescued by Eagles in the book, Bilbo clings to Dori’s legs as Dori is carried off by an Eagle; in the movie, Dori still has a dangler but this time it’s Ori.

Thoughts, musings, observations, answers, funny noises, or hijackings (but only if they’re related to Thorin) welcome!

Subject User Time
The Little Details (aka, Ro's been thinking again) Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 23 2013, 10:41am
    Yeah macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Jan 23 2013, 10:49am
    Thorin, sigh! Alcarcalime Send a private message to Alcarcalime Jan 23 2013, 11:26am
    It's in the details and the imagination Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Jan 23 2013, 12:06pm
    Thorin humming in his sleep macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Jan 23 2013, 12:19pm
    The Hobbit book and Thorin Eowyn3 Send a private message to Eowyn3 Jan 23 2013, 1:19pm
    I'm always up for another Thorin thread, lol... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 23 2013, 2:40pm
        Unless they used a body double... MistyMountain Send a private message to MistyMountain Jan 23 2013, 9:03pm
            Oh, I know... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 23 2013, 9:07pm
            Is MI-5 the American title for Spooks?// FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Jan 23 2013, 9:43pm
                Yes // MistyMountain Send a private message to MistyMountain Jan 23 2013, 10:00pm
                Yes, Spooks is MI-5 in the U.S. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 23 2013, 10:04pm
                    MI-5 is the British Secret Service... Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jan 24 2013, 12:34am
                        Right. But the original title is a loaded term here. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 24 2013, 12:41am
            LOL, MistyMountain. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 24 2013, 1:09am
                Oh, you will have to see North & South (2004) Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 24 2013, 1:37am
                    I really want to see N&S... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 24 2013, 2:13am
                        The DVD set is better. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 24 2013, 2:23am
                        Ack, Sherlock! Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Jan 24 2013, 5:16am
                            Had fun last night... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 24 2013, 2:10pm
                    LOVE N&S!! ryouko Send a private message to ryouko Jan 24 2013, 2:37am
                    It has been said somewhere mefansmum Jan 24 2013, 11:53am
                        Ah, thanks! Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 24 2013, 12:30pm
                    YYYEEEAAAHHH!!!! North and South hijacking!! Alassëa Eruvande Send a private message to Alassëa Eruvande Jan 24 2013, 3:39pm
                        Yes, the father issues, Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 24 2013, 3:59pm
                            Lucas North MistyMountain Send a private message to MistyMountain Jan 24 2013, 8:38pm
                        It's not our fault! Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 24 2013, 4:01pm
                            I did really like N&S... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 24 2013, 4:23pm
                                Watch Captain America Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 29 2013, 2:57am
                                    I have watched it... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 29 2013, 3:06am
                                        He was a German agent posing as an American State Dept. employee Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 29 2013, 3:12am
                                            Yeah, I think we've reached zen... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 29 2013, 3:15am
    I liked Thorin's observatory table that lets him read the map Earl Send a private message to Earl Jan 23 2013, 3:20pm
        You mean 'Elrond's table' I suppose... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 23 2013, 4:26pm
            And, I suspect, Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 23 2013, 6:57pm
                That's an amazing thought... you are no *ordinary* admin // Earl Send a private message to Earl Jan 24 2013, 7:22am
                And who knows? Maybe having the extra light from the table Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Jan 24 2013, 6:03pm
                    .... swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Jan 24 2013, 6:08pm
            Oh, heehee, yes, I meant Elrond :) // Earl Send a private message to Earl Jan 24 2013, 7:01am
    Thorin's hair? Yes! Alassëa Eruvande Send a private message to Alassëa Eruvande Jan 23 2013, 3:21pm
        yeah cheers for the Arm toot kid Alassea :P :P XD // Xanaseb Send a private message to Xanaseb Jan 24 2013, 2:47am
    Not IN the Book You Know IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Jan 23 2013, 3:31pm
    re-read? no; details? yes julia0925 Send a private message to julia0925 Jan 23 2013, 5:08pm
        'Hair' you go: Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 23 2013, 6:59pm
            Thanks! julia0925 Send a private message to julia0925 Jan 23 2013, 9:20pm
    The Hobbit as a book & film Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 23 2013, 5:50pm
    I re-read the book several months before the film came out Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Jan 23 2013, 6:34pm
        Oh also, #9 Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Jan 23 2013, 6:50pm
    I agree The Prancing Pony Send a private message to The Prancing Pony Jan 23 2013, 7:48pm
    answers from me :) imin Send a private message to imin Jan 23 2013, 9:20pm
    I have skimmed the book since seeing the movie Tintallë Send a private message to Tintallë Jan 23 2013, 9:34pm
        Correction: "Can you read them?" Tintallë Send a private message to Tintallë Jan 24 2013, 7:00pm
            I know it's been said before... Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 25 2013, 10:36am
    It will be a sad day Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 23 2013, 10:44pm
        The Rivendell scene Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Jan 23 2013, 10:52pm
            Yes, well said Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 24 2013, 10:38am
                The flute player Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Jan 24 2013, 6:36pm
                    Dwarf teasing The Prancing Pony Send a private message to The Prancing Pony Jan 24 2013, 7:11pm
                Rivendell Gelir Send a private message to Gelir Jan 26 2013, 4:49am
    Yes! Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Jan 24 2013, 3:17am
    book and film swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Jan 24 2013, 7:34am
        Oh yes! Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Jan 24 2013, 8:02am
            Poor ponies! Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Jan 24 2013, 1:41pm
    The Dwarves' music Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Jan 24 2013, 6:18pm
        Oh, and Elrond and Gandalf Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Jan 24 2013, 9:54pm
            Good catch. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 25 2013, 1:07am
    Describing Smaug Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jan 26 2013, 12:28am
    Re: Details Gelir Send a private message to Gelir Jan 26 2013, 4:12am
    Re: Arandiel's and Súlimë's comments about Thranduil Gelir Send a private message to Gelir Jan 26 2013, 4:28am

 
 
 

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