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To put it bluntly: yes, they do!

elostirion74
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Jan 22 2013, 3:16pm


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Directing a film is a creative enterprise and most directors wouldn't be satisfied with just copying someone's else story. Why should they feel the need to adapt it if they're hardly allowed any sense of creative freedom or put their own stamp on it? If a director followed the original story almost literally, I think the consequences would be an uninspired and at the very best quite mediocre result (like the first two Harry Potter films)

Even with the differences between books and film as medium, an adaptation always involves a process of selection of what seems most essential or interesting about the underlying story/themes and an elimination of elements that do not fit into this storyline. And if it's not just a verbatim rendition of the original story, the adaptation involves a series of decisions about how to translate the underlying story/themes effectively to a visual medium, including adding scenes or changing scenes.

There are many ways of going about an adaptation and I won't go about trying to make a number of examples, although discussing different approaches to an adaptation could be interesting in itself.

On the whole, I find now that it's less interesting to consider additions to the original story as changes in themselves and more interesting to discuss how well they are executed and work in the film. For instance I find that the Goblin Town antics are bad because they exhibit IMO boring and derivative film making, which doesn't feel in sync with the rest of the film: it feels wildly unrealistic and at the same time it lacks any flair of the fantastical. I have no problem with Azog, since he's added probably mostly because of the pacing, which I consider a relevant issue for any film maker. He also provides a link to Thorin's back story and motivation for going on the quest. Radagast's bunny sled chase fits nicely into the comedy of the film, I found it both genuinely funny and whimsical and very much in the spirit of the original story.

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Do directors need to make their own mark on the story? stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Jan 22 2013, 2:00pm
    If Tolkien had written a screenplay... arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Jan 22 2013, 2:15pm
    If PJ were only making a movie about the Hobbit... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 22 2013, 2:42pm
    As an artist myself... droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Jan 22 2013, 3:11pm
        Yes dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jan 23 2013, 9:08am
    Language didn't feel dumbed down LordotRings93 Send a private message to LordotRings93 Jan 22 2013, 3:12pm
    To put it bluntly: yes, they do! elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Jan 22 2013, 3:16pm
        I actually think Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Jan 23 2013, 6:52pm
            well elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Jan 24 2013, 9:54am
    From a stage perspective Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 22 2013, 3:57pm
    well, people will complain no matter what elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 22 2013, 4:10pm
        A good example of this... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 22 2013, 4:20pm
            but the author is on board with the changes Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Jan 22 2013, 4:54pm
                However... Owain Send a private message to Owain Jan 22 2013, 5:21pm
                PJ didn't need "sanctioning"... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 22 2013, 5:31pm
                    We need one of those...if the Hobbit were directed by...threads... Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 22 2013, 6:34pm
                        How about Michael Bay? bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 22 2013, 6:42pm
        Yes // Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 22 2013, 4:47pm
    Yes, absolutely. Adaptation is a legitimate form of storytelling, and PJ made legitimate choices... nobofthepony Send a private message to nobofthepony Jan 22 2013, 7:37pm
        Let's not forget Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 22 2013, 10:37pm
            I may be in the minority... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jan 22 2013, 10:44pm
                And...that's why it was ultimately unsuccessful I suppose Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 23 2013, 5:01pm
    If they are worth anything, they will. Wielder of Anduril Send a private message to Wielder of Anduril Jan 23 2013, 6:46pm
    George Lucas Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 23 2013, 9:06pm

 
 
 

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