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The Significance of The Black Speech coming from Azog and his co-horts.

AinurOlorin
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Jan 19 2013, 6:46am


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It ties him to Sauron's dominion in a way nor orcs have been in the films thus far. The origins of the speech are debatable. If Sauron invented it, it ties them entirely to him. If, as other accounts suggest, Melkor The Morgoth invented it and Sauron merely tried to expand and re-implement, then it may have been re-inforced in the Moria orcs by the presence and dominion of The Balrog. In either event, it still ties them heavily to Sauron, and is likely not coincedental. No other orcs in the Rings movies ever spoke in it, to my recollection. Sauron and The Nazgul did, but Not Lurtz, not Ugluk, not the Potato headed orc whom I refuse to call by the same name as the foremost of The Balrogs Tongue. And the Goblins do not speak it here. Only Azog and his henchman. The suggestion of a tie to Sauron is almost absolute, and I do not doubt we will see it further explored later.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

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The Significance of The Black Speech coming from Azog and his co-horts. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 19 2013, 6:46am
    We do hear the Orcs using the Black Speech in RotK Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Jan 19 2013, 8:20pm
        Duly noted, though AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 19 2013, 9:45pm
    Yeah we posted about this... Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 20 2013, 12:08am
    I do believe the Orkish in the movie is different from Black Speech (though they could still be related) Lio Send a private message to Lio Jan 20 2013, 12:09am
    Well if it was a form of Black Speech, it would also tie-in to Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 20 2013, 12:38pm
        That sounds about right. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 20 2013, 5:55pm
            Yes the use of the Ringwraith's theme.. YaznegSouth40 Send a private message to YaznegSouth40 Jan 22 2013, 9:32pm

 
 
 

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