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The Dwarves' Age in Human Years

Súlimë
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Jan 18 2013, 10:08am


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I tried searching for a thread like this but didn't find one (probably due to my lack of forum-searching skills), so apologies if this has already been discussed.

From "Durin's Folk" from the Appendices of ROTK, we get the Longbeards' family tree which gives the birth/death years of dwarves.

So I thought it would be interesting to see how old the dwarves were when the Hobbit-related major events occurred (in human years). For age conversion I used this formula:
http://axebow.lcwsites.net/...comparativeages.html

Thanks to the author of the page!

Here goes:
Sack of Erebor
Thorin 24 (= 12 in human years)
Balin 7 (=3.5)
Dain 3 (=1.5)
The rest are not yet born at this point.

End of the War of of the Dwarves and Orcs
*Azog slain by Dain
Thorin 53 (=23)
Balin 36 (=18)
Dain 32 (=16)
Dwalin 27 (=13.5)
Oin 25 (=12.5)
Gloin 16 (=8)

Quest for Erebor
Thorin 195 (=57)
Balin 178 (=53)
Dain 174 (=52)
Dwalin 169 (=51)
Oin 167 (=50)
Gloin 158 (=48)
The others -- around 130 (=41)
Fili 82 (=30)
Kili 77 (=29)
[Gimli 62 (=25)]

So what this means:
- Thorin might be the only one who actually remembers the sack of Erebor.
- The 'older generation' of the dwarves were still quite young-ish during the War of the Dwarves and Orcs
- In the movie version, Thorin's age has been greatly reduced and it is apparent he is much younger than Balin and the rest of the dwarves from that generation
- Technically, Gimli isn't 'too young' to join the quest, but maybe Gloin just wants to keep his son safe (?)
- Fili's and Kili's looks in the movies seem right for their age

Of course, these observations can be way off, as we have no idea of knowing how exactly dwarves 'come of age' or what is considered 'mature' in their culture. After all, Hobbits come of age at 33, and only live to be about 100 years, so in a way we can say that they have a prolonged childhood (hence their jolly nature?). I think I read somewhere that Elves have a relatively brief childhood before they are considered adults. So maybe it is different for the dwarves. Maybe they reach physical maturity (and can join battles) at the same age as humans, but are less emotionally developed? Or maybe they need to become what is equivalent to a middle-aged human before they are considered 'mature'?

Thoughts and speculations will be greatly appreciated!

(And do let me know if my numbers are wrong!)
Blush

Subject User Time
The Dwarves' Age in Human Years Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Jan 18 2013, 10:08am
    Dwarves age and human age imin Send a private message to imin Jan 18 2013, 10:27am
        Yeah Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Jan 18 2013, 11:15am
    Really nice summary Azaghâl Send a private message to Azaghâl Jan 18 2013, 10:59am
        Good point! Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Jan 18 2013, 12:11pm
        Do dwarves get tougher as they age imin Send a private message to imin Jan 18 2013, 12:39pm
            From HoMe XII: The Peoples of Middle-earth Rane Send a private message to Rane Jan 18 2013, 5:45pm
    Film age vs book age Scourge of the Stoors Send a private message to Scourge of the Stoors Jan 18 2013, 5:52pm
        I think it makes sense Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Jan 19 2013, 2:54am
    Re Retro315 Send a private message to Retro315 Jan 19 2013, 5:02pm
    Age of Balin v Thorin Lacri Send a private message to Lacri Jan 28 2013, 7:46pm

 
 
 

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