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Dunadan Magic

Retro315
Rivendell

Jan 17 2013, 10:36pm


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I can buy the Dunedain sealing wraiths in crypts, actually. The Barrow-downs weren't actually haunted until the Witch-king came to Angmar, then he sent spirits to possess the corpses.

But within those barrows, Bombadil (and in the films, Aragorn (hey, film Aragorn might know Bombadil!)) took out old Dunedain short-swords.

And one of those short-swords - Merry's - had runes on it that made it capable of critically damaging the wraith-spell of the Witch-king, so that Eowyn could strike the ending blow.

The Men of the North certainly had runes and wards that could affect even wraiths as powerful as the Nazgul. These are men whose leaders frequent the libraries of Elrond and have some Numenorean lore passed down. They're also friendly with dwarves. If during the War with Angmar when the Noldor of Rivendell aided them, they managed to seal the Witch-king in these high fells (Carn Dum?) and put runes on the doors, so be it. In those days before Sauron's return he feared Glorfindel.

Then the only power capable of strengthening the Witch-king enough to escape would be the Return of Sauron - he's a direct proxy of Sauron's power levels, and at Sauron's height the Witch-king could break more than Dunadan Runes, he nearly smote Gandalf.

His escape will be further evidence for Gandalf that The Enemy is returning. The ultimate visual evidence will be Gandalf seeing Sauron's eyes - thus validating the Fellowship moment where Saruman says "You know of what I speak" and Gandalf replies "The Eye of Sauron" - which he recognizes for what it is. As we saw, right now the Witch-king is escaped, but is little more than a ghost - he can't wear robes as a garb in the real world - he can barely grip a black magic blade, and Radagast can perceive and thwart him.


(This post was edited by Retro315 on Jan 17 2013, 10:38pm)

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Problem I just noticed in Dialogue elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 17 2013, 5:07pm
    The Witch King was Numenorean RalphDamiani Send a private message to RalphDamiani Jan 17 2013, 6:50pm
        Someone else? Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Jan 17 2013, 7:27pm
        Elrond Maybe? LordMaximus Send a private message to LordMaximus Jan 17 2013, 8:18pm
        Dunadan Magic Retro315 Send a private message to Retro315 Jan 17 2013, 10:36pm
            Well RalphDamiani Send a private message to RalphDamiani Jan 17 2013, 11:00pm
            Well... Ereinion Nénharma Send a private message to Ereinion Nénharma Jan 18 2013, 2:22pm
    Other than the fact that the Witch King never died or was buried... // NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jan 18 2013, 2:16pm

 
 
 

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