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Problem I just noticed in Dialogue


Jan 17 2013, 5:07pm

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In the White Council scenes when the Morgul Blade is revealed Galadriel talks about the Witch King of Angmar being buried in a deep dark place and Elrond mentions spells on it. I have no prblem with that being true. The problem comes in the fact that they already knew about the Nazgul, The Witch King was known to be in Minas Morgul during LOTR movies, Aragorn gives their story as does Galadriel in those movies.
How in the world are they buried and safely put away in The Hobbit?
Minas Morgul was not Minas Morgul until after the kingdom of Angmar fell was it not?
The Witch King was a human king in Angmar correct?

The line about him being buried makes no sense to me in the context of the Dol Guldur subplot now that I think about it. I can reconcile their being tombs and all that, I explained my theory briefly in the Minas Morgul Thread another TORner started. In summation becoming a wraith is similar to becoming a butterfly, there is a body left to bury, the spirit goes on without leaving the circles of Arda.
So knowing that The Witch King is a Nazgul, how could he have been buried when he fell? When did he fall? Don't they know he showed back up again in Minas Morgul? Its a very confusing part of the story now that I thik about it. Can you guys help me out here?

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Problem I just noticed in Dialogue elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 17 2013, 5:07pm
    The Witch King was Numenorean RalphDamiani Send a private message to RalphDamiani Jan 17 2013, 6:50pm
        Someone else? Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Jan 17 2013, 7:27pm
        Elrond Maybe? LordMaximus Send a private message to LordMaximus Jan 17 2013, 8:18pm
        Dunadan Magic Retro315 Send a private message to Retro315 Jan 17 2013, 10:36pm
            Well RalphDamiani Send a private message to RalphDamiani Jan 17 2013, 11:00pm
            Well... Ereinion Nénharma Send a private message to Ereinion Nénharma Jan 18 2013, 2:22pm
    Other than the fact that the Witch King never died or was buried... // NottaSackville Send a private message to NottaSackville Jan 18 2013, 2:16pm


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