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Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 17 2013, 4:22pm

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Weekly poetry thread Can't Post

 I love pretty much everything Emily Dickenson wrote, but this one is my favorite of hers.

To make a prairie

by Emily Dickinson

To make a prairie it takes a clover and one bee,
One clover, and a bee.
And revery.
The revery alone will do,
If bees are few.


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

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Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 17 2013, 5:31pm

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my first poem of the new year [In reply to] Can't Post

day ten

five days together,
scrambling around swamps and shorelines,
passing the binoculars back and forth,
taking photographs and flipping through Sibley's -

cedar waxwings foraging in a tree,
a kestrel hovering intently over a field,
brown pelicans plunging into the sea -
we saw fifty-nine species of birds,
at least if you count the dead ones.

i found an intact bivalve shell half-buried in the wet sand;
you told me i should keep it.

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now, five days later,
i'm sitting at home wondering what happened.
my headset rests unused next to my monitor,
on skype, a question mark appears next to your name,
and the two halves of that bivalve shell sit on my shelf;
they must have broken on the way home.

i flip through my photos,
and i think about that young razorbill we found,
pristinely feathered in black and white,
his body lying lifeless in the sand.

(© 2013 Cassander)

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...

(This post was edited by Kassandros on Jan 17 2013, 5:39pm)


Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 17 2013, 6:55pm

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Wow, that's pretty vivid [In reply to] Can't Post

and sad.


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 17 2013, 7:27pm

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Thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

It's all very literal, I'm afraid. Sometimes life just drops metaphors in your lap and all ya can do is present them.

If you'd like to see the razorbill: http://cassander42.deviantart.com/...-Razorbill-348762984

There's so much more i left out, too:

During the evening of day 5, we went to see The Hobbit in 2D. It was my second viewing and her first. It was our first movie together. Our first traditional date - i.e. dinner and a movie, just the two of us, rather than hiking, exploring, and birding like we usually had done. We held hands through the whole movie, and she squeezed mine excitedly whenever Smaug was on screen.

Before the movie, she told me she liked how my hair looked down after my hairtie broke and i was going to get a new one. I was planning to try to figure out how to wear it that way more often without it getting in my face. I wonder how Thorin does it.

It's kind of odd to be broken up with by someone who's obviously still in love with you. She said she thought the relationship was wrong at this time, though, for a variety of complicated reasons I can't quite get into now. And she said she needed a long vacation from me. How exactly do you handle something like that? I'm utterly confused and quite crushed.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


silneldor
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 12:15am

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I do think that although this has been around for ages, [In reply to] Can't Post

it is quite worthy for reflection this time of year.

Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening

Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village, though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.

My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.

He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
Robert Frost
















Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 12:21am

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Yep, I've got that one by heart <3 // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 12:23am

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I'm so sorry. [In reply to] Can't Post

It sounds so utterly painful. :-(


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Jan 18 2013, 2:22am

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Ah, but do you have it ... [In reply to] Can't Post

...by the hand?
I'm about to! =)

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Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 2:37am

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Nope :-D [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't understand patterns at all; I just crochet by the seat of my pants, so to speak. You are amazing!


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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silneldor
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 2:43am

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Fancy that! [In reply to] Can't Post

How cool is that. Good form Eowyn:).

......Do you knit mail orderSmile















silneldor
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 2:50am

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I think YOU are amazing too. [In reply to] Can't Post

Memorizing all that you do.

Both of you are cause for smiling about. Always full of surpriZes:)















Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 2:52am

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I once heard Garrison Keillor sing that [In reply to] Can't Post

to a tune I know you would recognize if I could only think of the name. It's a famous tango. Anyway, when my son was little, about thirty years ago, I used to sing it as my fingers crept up his legs to tickle his tummy. He was usually shrieking with laughter long before the tickle part (which came on "To watch (long pause) his-woods-fill-up-with-snow."


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 2:53am

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I don't *try* to memorize. [In reply to] Can't Post

Things just stick. Like all the verses to the Gilligan's Island song :-/


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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silneldor
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 3:03am

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Garrison Keillor [In reply to] Can't Post

has a wonderful speaking or singing voice. I love his Lake Wobegon stories and once in a while i catch his poetry thread on the radio.

Ha, tickle man. With me i'd attack lil'sil with tickle everythings, birds, bugs, airplanes, spiders but with just sound effects. Mrs. sil had the song related departmentLaugh















Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 18 2013, 3:06pm

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Some things that are popular are also good. [In reply to] Can't Post

Tolkien and Frost are two excellent examples.

This is still a wonderful poem, no matter how often it is quoted. I think it must be the most popular work of art that whose primary theme is contemplating suicide.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 18 2013, 3:09pm

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Well, I've made it a week now. [In reply to] Can't Post

Just focusing on making it through one day at a time. Still haven't recieved the species list from her or her photographs or the sketches she did of us, which she said she'd send soon. All I can do is wait, though. And I have my own promises to keep - I owe a few people some poetry that I've been behind on.

Thank you.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...


silneldor
Half-elven


Jan 18 2013, 8:56pm

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I do not see it. [In reply to] Can't Post

I see a celebration of beauty. I see it as yet another festival for the spirit.















Kassandros
Rohan


Jan 18 2013, 9:27pm

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The speaker is considering laying in the snow to die. [In reply to] Can't Post

He's stopped, where the owner of the woods won't see him - if he weren't doing something he shouldn't, why should it matter if the owner sees him? And his horse senses that unnatural thing too, hense giving his harness a shake. The horse represents the instinctive will to live.

And he is resisting something, because he says, "but I have promises to keep." What else would be do by staying out all night in the snow in the middle of nowhere on the darkest night of the year? He's considering sleeping in the snow - a way to die. But, because he has "promises to keep" - responsibilities - he goes on. And he still has much to do in life ("miles to go") before it is time for him to die ("before I sleep").

And, the alternative besides going miles before sleeping, would be sleeping right where he is. Out in the snow. Death.

I'm not making this up or anything - it's a pretty standard interpretation of the poem. Sleep is very often a symbol of death in literature.

That being said, I'm not saying you can't read the poem differently. Just explaining what I meant since you asked.

all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us...

(This post was edited by Kassandros on Jan 18 2013, 9:29pm)


Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Jan 18 2013, 11:54pm

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I used to do that, too, but as someone not afraid of "OMG - teh Maths!" [In reply to] Can't Post

involved, I find myself creating more of my own knitting patterns -- charted -- these days, and rarely do any instapattern or free-form crochet now. I find the very formulaic structure and the rhythm of knitting comforting, though sometimes I do get lazy about the math. I bet there's someone here who could help with that... ;) Did I mention that modern knitting patterns are easier to read than most crochet patterns? IMO, anyway. Try to convert you? Me? *smiles angelicly*

Aaand, to get this somewhat back on topic, I've seen Shakespeare on a scarf, but I really hope to get around to doing the Beowulf socks someday! =)

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Eowyn of Penns Woods
Valinor


Jan 18 2013, 11:56pm

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*holds up sign* "Will knit for small custommade wooden objects!" ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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NARF: NWtS Chapter Member since June 17,2011


Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 19 2013, 12:10am

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Well, I never say never... [In reply to] Can't Post

because I've taken up new hobbies all my life. But right now I'm not inclined to take up knitting. And while I'm sure I could understand patterns, I'm pretty bad a copying things correctly (my students know all about that--I always tell them "never believe anything I tell you with numbers") so counting stitches sounds like a problem for me, especially when I get into that meditative state.

My brother knows how to knit, though, and he made me a pair of socks once :-)

Anyway, I do love all the cool things you do. If you do the Beowulf socks, be sure to put a photo here!


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"A Chance Meeting at Rivendell" and other stories

leleni at hotmail dot com
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(This post was edited by Aunt Dora Baggins on Jan 19 2013, 12:11am)


silneldor
Half-elven


Jan 19 2013, 12:35am

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Interesting proposition! [In reply to] Can't Post

We ought to think on it. Any ideas?















silneldor
Half-elven


Jan 19 2013, 4:01am

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I found this is one interpretation. [In reply to] Can't Post

But Whitman i read, was just depressed for the inability to buy Christmas presents for his kids because of poor results at the market. Not to the point of suicide, just depression and duty, the bells being a momentary cheering element to move on .

But in the end it is the reader/interpreter that signals its meaning. A Rorschach lightning rod to draw and then reflect back the bend of the spirit at the moment. Just like what can be expressed in this reference. I read different references but they signal just more impressions.

Again what matters to each of us i think, is what we personally feel, learning what the inward plunge will tell us.

I take this for a unhindered moment, removed from the stresses of society at large, to move away from the possible misinterpretations of prying eyes to delve into the comfort of peace and wonder of the moment. I love to walk into the woods at times like this. For me it produces an 'eternal moment' if you will. A simple singularity of focus. A draw from the usual business of random thought. usually centered around the 'survival mode'

The horse may be wondering, of course, the change from the usual, or it may be shaking off the cold snow that was accumulating, feeling it more upon stopping.

The repetitive end seems like a mantra to ease the mind back into the world at large, duty certainly being one of them. But those are just my 'reflections'

Whitman also said he cared little for others' myriad interpretation of his work. He did not mind that they did, he just did not want to be there when they did. I can understand that.















Annael
Half-elven


Jan 19 2013, 5:48pm

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I have a personal context for this [In reply to] Can't Post

One of my favorite teachers in college was a man named Willi Unsoeld, who was famous for being part of the two-man team who first climbed Everest by the West Ridge (with Tom Hornbein, who is also a family acquaintance). They made it to the summit only a couple of hours before sunset. The plan was to descend by the traditional South Col route - a route neither of them knew. They made it partway down before realizing that they would have to bivouac for the night.

Now, on most nights, the air at that height is so cold it's death to stop moving - as anyone who's read Jon Krakauer's Into Thin Air or seen the documentary Dying for Everest will know.. But miraculously, that night the air was still (so no windchill) and warmer than usual. Tom's feet were freezing so Willi offered to warm them on his stomach, but when Tom asked if he could return the favor, Willi said "no, I'm fine." He wasn't - he lost all but one little toe to frostbite.

They had radios & were in contact with base camp. When they said that they were going to stop for the night, the folks below urged them to keep going because they feared if they didn't, that would be it. But Willi recited those those lines "I have promises to keep, and miles to go before we sleep" (including Tom). The promise was to his wife that he would return safely.

So when I read that poem, I think of Willi.

Willi did die in the snow 16 years later, in an avalanche on Mount Rainier. As much as he was grieved (2,000 people came to his funeral), everyone also felt it was how he wanted to go.

The way we imagine our lives is the way we are going to go on living our lives.

- James Hillman, Healing Fiction

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NARF and member of Deplorable Cultus since 1967

(This post was edited by Annael on Jan 19 2013, 5:51pm)


Tintallė
Gondor


Jan 20 2013, 12:03am

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One of my very favorites, recallling those moments [In reply to] Can't Post

of serenity in my life, when I take time to stop everything and just be.

Frost is pretty much my favorite poet, and this is one my father used to read to me so it holds a special place in my heart.

Until this thread my impression was unspoiled by others' interpretations, but the beauty of poetry is that it conveys to each according to each individual, and so I am content.

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