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Estel78
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Jan 13 2013, 7:45pm
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The world is Ahead (last few notes)
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The last few notes of the track The world is Ahead is some of the best stuff on that soundtrack. Was that in the movie? I don't remember hearing it. I hope it develops into a full blown theme in the next movies.
Also, some of the bonus tracks are pretty cool, shame they weren't in the movie.
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Estel78
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Jan 13 2013, 8:10pm
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Music when fighting the trolls
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Is it me or is this music different on the soundtrack as well? Sounds better than what we get in the movie.
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Shagrat
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Jan 13 2013, 8:15pm
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'Roast Mutton' is quite different on the Special Edition
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Though I much prefer the longer action cues on the standard edition.
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Jabarkis
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Jan 14 2013, 2:26am
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If you have the Special Edition, listen to The Edge of the Wild. I'm pretty sure that opens with the same motif.
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Estel78
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Jan 14 2013, 3:32am
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I prefer the full blown strings version, though. But the beginning of Edge of the Wild is not bad, either. I hope they'll use some of that in the sequels.
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Estel78
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Jan 14 2013, 3:44am
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...that you have to buy both soundtracks if you wanna hear everything.
How's Misty Mountain from Neil Finn on the standard edition (other than shorter)? In the deluxe edition i believe to hear differences between it and the version they use in the movie.
Man, not a fan of the variations. Sometimes i wish they would have used some of the stuff that's on the soundtrack and sometimes i wish the soundtrack had some stuff from the movie. With LOTR you pretty much got what's in the movie. Not so much here...
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Jabarkis
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Jan 14 2013, 5:03am
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Roast Mutton works better, dramatically, on the SE
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Yeah, it is quite irritating. I expect they'll try to get a triple-dip going on all the soundtracks (standard edition, special edition and complete recordings).
I probably prefer the Special Edition version of the Roast Mutton cue from a dramatic perspective: the dwarves are doing something heroic, but they're powerless against the trolls, so it works to have the full theme dialled down a few notches. The standard version is probably more fun, though.
It's basically all down to market forces - they want to release the soundtracks at the same time as the films, but the cut of the score used in the films will almost always be more recent than the recording for the soundtracks.
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Rolfina
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Jan 14 2013, 7:59am
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Is there a list of titles that are different from the EE?
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I bought the Extended Edition CD, but wouldn't mind downloading the tracks I'm missing out on from iTunes, if it's possible to download single tracks from the Standard Edition.
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Calenheniel
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Jan 14 2013, 10:54am
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I'm pretty sure the Eagles track is missing
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from the SE album, since I listened to it a couple times last night. I'd also like to know what else I should download...
EDIT: Might be wrong about the Eagles. Not sure.
'I do not know what is happening. The reason of my waking mind tells me that great evil has befallen and we stand at the end of days. But my heart says nay; and all my limbs are light, and a hope and joy are come to me that no reason can deny. Eowyn, Eowyn, White Lady of Rohan, in this hour I do not believe that any darkness will endure!' And he stooped and kissed her brow.
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FlyingSerkis
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Jan 14 2013, 12:02pm
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The film version of the eagle music is not on either version
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The only music on the Regular Edition soundtrack that is not on the Special Edition soundtrack is, I believe, the following:
Old Friends - The section that begins at 1:51 is different between the Regular and Special.
Roast Mutton - The action sequence is different - in particular, the "Misty Mountains" statement is much longer and more heroic in the Regular Edition than in the Special.
Moon Runes - There is a 15 second bit at 2:42 in the Regular which is not in the Special, apparently.
As far as I'm aware, that's all 
(With regards to the eagle music, the first part of "A Good Omen" would seem to be for the eagle rescue but was not used in the film. I don't think it's as long as the stupendous music used in the film though)
Then Manwė and Yavanna parted for that time, and Yavanna returned to Aulė; and he was in his smithy, pouring molten metal into a mould. 'Eru is bountiful,' she said. 'Now let thy children beware! For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril.'
'Nonetheless they will have need of wood,' said Aulė, and he went on with his smith-work.
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Runk Snusgrop
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Jan 14 2013, 12:20pm
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Does Billy Boyd get a co-writing credit for that?
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He came up with the melody, didn't he?
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FlyingSerkis
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Jan 14 2013, 12:46pm
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Billy Boyd's song was "The Edge of Night"
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And I don't think any melody from that is included in this score. The discussion is about the Hobbit track "The World is Ahead" which of course is a line from Billy's song, but I don't think there is any musical connection
Then Manwė and Yavanna parted for that time, and Yavanna returned to Aulė; and he was in his smithy, pouring molten metal into a mould. 'Eru is bountiful,' she said. 'Now let thy children beware! For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril.'
'Nonetheless they will have need of wood,' said Aulė, and he went on with his smith-work.
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Estel78
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Jan 14 2013, 1:01pm
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Thanks for listing the differences
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(With regards to the eagle music, the first part of "A Good Omen" would seem to be for the eagle rescue but was not used in the film. I don't think it's as long as the stupendous music used in the film though)
The eagle rescue i miss the most. Great music.
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Calenheniel
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Jan 14 2013, 1:01pm
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I hope they release the film version!
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The one on the SE just does not compare, like you said, to the magic of the one I heard in the cinema. 
'I do not know what is happening. The reason of my waking mind tells me that great evil has befallen and we stand at the end of days. But my heart says nay; and all my limbs are light, and a hope and joy are come to me that no reason can deny. Eowyn, Eowyn, White Lady of Rohan, in this hour I do not believe that any darkness will endure!' And he stooped and kissed her brow.
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macfalk
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Jan 14 2013, 1:05pm
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A Good Omen is great. The music used in the movie for the Eagle rescue is even better. //
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The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.
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FlyingSerkis
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Jan 14 2013, 1:11pm
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I think it's quite likely we'll get a "Complete Recordings" set at some point
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And they would surely include that cue in such a set (depending on how the EE of the film pans out).
Meanwhile it is currently on youtube.... Link (Am I allowed to do that?)
Then Manwė and Yavanna parted for that time, and Yavanna returned to Aulė; and he was in his smithy, pouring molten metal into a mould. 'Eru is bountiful,' she said. 'Now let thy children beware! For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril.'
'Nonetheless they will have need of wood,' said Aulė, and he went on with his smith-work.
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Calenheniel
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Jan 14 2013, 1:21pm
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I like how the sound effects are still there ;)
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Thanks for the link!
'I do not know what is happening. The reason of my waking mind tells me that great evil has befallen and we stand at the end of days. But my heart says nay; and all my limbs are light, and a hope and joy are come to me that no reason can deny. Eowyn, Eowyn, White Lady of Rohan, in this hour I do not believe that any darkness will endure!' And he stooped and kissed her brow.
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Calenheniel
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Jan 14 2013, 1:29pm
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This is one of the best tracks
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From the album. Can't stop listening to it! I'm probably wrong about this, but it almost sounds as if it has hints of Beorn's upcoming theme. There is something very woodsy and dangerous about it, but also wondrous.
'I do not know what is happening. The reason of my waking mind tells me that great evil has befallen and we stand at the end of days. But my heart says nay; and all my limbs are light, and a hope and joy are come to me that no reason can deny. Eowyn, Eowyn, White Lady of Rohan, in this hour I do not believe that any darkness will endure!' And he stooped and kissed her brow.
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Rolfina
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Jan 14 2013, 2:22pm
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I might download the alternate versions, okay, maybe not the Moon Runes one. 
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percy
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Jan 16 2013, 2:36am
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I admit that this may be a coincidence, but I couldn't help noticing a slight similarity between the melody of Pippin singing, "...the world ahead," and the dwarves singing "...Misty Mountains cold" (or any corresponding lyric from the other verses). Maybe it's just me, though.
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FlyingSerkis
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Jan 16 2013, 11:54am
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Yes, the melodies are very similar indeed for those lines. I doubt there is any significance to it but who knows!
Then Manwė and Yavanna parted for that time, and Yavanna returned to Aulė; and he was in his smithy, pouring molten metal into a mould. 'Eru is bountiful,' she said. 'Now let thy children beware! For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril.'
'Nonetheless they will have need of wood,' said Aulė, and he went on with his smith-work.
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