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The finding of the Arkenstone

Calenheniel
Bree


Jan 13 2013, 5:04pm

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Continuing in a series of observations about small scenes in AUJ that I unexpectedly loved, I have to discuss the finding of the Arkenstone in Erebor.

Personally, I found it rather surprising- I suppose I thought, while reading the book, that it would be a grander affair. Instead, in the film, we saw it from the perspective of that lone, dwarf miner - his face sweaty and dirtied from the difficulty and griminess of his work - and from his tired eyes slowly opening from beneath his helmet, we, the audience, immediately get a sense of how remarkable this gem is.

The attention to detail on the miner alone was very impressive to me, not to mention the giant caverns surrounding him. It was definitely one of those PJ-certified 'magic moments' that I'm glad we got to see on film. Smile

'I do not know what is happening. The reason of my waking mind tells me that great evil has befallen and we stand at the end of days. But my heart says nay; and all my limbs are light, and a hope and joy are come to me that no reason can deny. Eowyn, Eowyn, White Lady of Rohan, in this hour I do not believe that any darkness will endure!' And he stooped and kissed her brow.


herzogian
Bree

Jan 13 2013, 5:10pm

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Agreed. One of the better little moments in the movie. Focusing of the lonely minder digging the arkenstone up was a good touch.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 13 2013, 5:28pm

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I loved the shot of the Dwarves mining [In reply to] Can't Post

That was spectacular. It would've been nice to keep the history of the Arkenstone true to the book, but I understand the need to increase it's importance to Throin.


Valandil ed Imladris
Lorien


Jan 13 2013, 5:31pm

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the scene is cool, but I don't like the arkenstone [In reply to] Can't Post

it was too small and oval. I thought it would look like this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rD3-w50RohU/UO4Cuj5hvbI/AAAAAAAADAQ/LjBLToB5x_4/s1600/donato_giancola_-_the_arkenstone.jpg


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Jan 13 2013, 5:42pm

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How is it different from the book? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Vocalist in the semi-progressive metal band Arctic Eclipse


RalphDamiani
Rivendell

Jan 13 2013, 5:53pm

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Giancola's art is superb [In reply to] Can't Post

Has anyone not yet seen his portrait of Tolkien released in December?

http://www.donatoart.com/gallery/jrrtolkienb.html


(This post was edited by RalphDamiani on Jan 13 2013, 5:54pm)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 13 2013, 5:53pm

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It was found by Thrain I himself [In reply to] Can't Post

Shortly after Erebor was established. In the film, it's found during Thror's reign, many hundreds of years after the book.


Yva
Rivendell


Jan 13 2013, 5:55pm

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Agreed with "PJ-certified magic moments"! [In reply to] Can't Post

That should be a registered trademark. I also loved how he goes from the spectacular, zoomed-out wide-scale view of the cavern to more zoomed-in details with each cut, the transition being so very natural, and when the camera closes in on the dwarf, isn't he suddenly the most important person in ME. You can tell PJ really cares about his major-minor characters and he's truly great at making the audience care for them, too.

Loved the candlestick flashlight.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jan 13 2013, 7:33pm

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It wasn't how I imagined, either. [In reply to] Can't Post

I really like the one you linked to. But I've always imagined it to look like the gems from the old Crash Bandicoot video games.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Calenheniel
Bree


Jan 13 2013, 7:40pm

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Very well-said! :D [In reply to] Can't Post

I should mention that Ian Holm's narration during the scene is the cherry on top. Spellbinding.

I especially like the way he says 'the Arkenstone' with such wonder in his voice.

'I do not know what is happening. The reason of my waking mind tells me that great evil has befallen and we stand at the end of days. But my heart says nay; and all my limbs are light, and a hope and joy are come to me that no reason can deny. Eowyn, Eowyn, White Lady of Rohan, in this hour I do not believe that any darkness will endure!' And he stooped and kissed her brow.

(This post was edited by Calenheniel on Jan 13 2013, 7:41pm)


Ataahua
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Jan 13 2013, 8:27pm

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Because of this, I can now picture [In reply to] Can't Post

how the Dwarves mined in Moria - from the FOTR EE scene with Merry (?) looking over the edge into the dark pit, and Pippin holding him back. Knowing the brightest and noise of an operative mine makes Moria feel more desolate than ever.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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The Prancing Pony
Rivendell

Jan 13 2013, 8:38pm

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I don't know why, but I like that they actually show Bilbo writing the word 'Arkenstone'. But maybe that's just me Angelic.
(Besides liking Bilbo's handwriting in general)

"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."

(This post was edited by The Prancing Pony on Jan 13 2013, 8:39pm)


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Jan 13 2013, 9:49pm

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The portrait is stunning! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for this! I love the composition and all the little details on the papers, books, china, etc. (and the hidden eagles!)

I bought Donato's book of Tolkien-inspired art last year but had no idea he was planning a portrait of The Professor...


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort





 
 

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