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What the necromancer said ?

NoelGallagher
Rohan

Jan 12 2013, 7:11pm

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What the necromancer said ? Can't Post

Anyone understood / any ideas ?


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 12 2013, 7:13pm

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He was repeating "Radagast" according to non-English subtitles./ [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Azog
Bree


Jan 12 2013, 7:21pm

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I made a point of paying close attention to that [In reply to] Can't Post

And I don't hear Radagasts,the scenes on YouTube also and I'm not hearing it,maybe I need a hearing rest :)


Runk Snusgrop
Rivendell


Jan 12 2013, 7:21pm

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Re: [In reply to] Can't Post

In what language? Black speech?



Elenorflower
Gondor


Jan 12 2013, 7:32pm

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I think it was, [In reply to] Can't Post

MMMWWahahahahahaha!


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Jan 12 2013, 7:36pm

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i think it was trying to communicate to radagast... [In reply to] Can't Post

you are not actually here you are tripping on your mushrooms.


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty, oh will you please take me home!!


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 12 2013, 7:44pm

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I can't hear it either [In reply to] Can't Post

It just sounds like inaudible noise. But then the subtitles are official, so it must be!


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 12 2013, 7:47pm

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Presumably in the Black Speech [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't hear "Radagast" at all. Crazy


Old Toby
Gondor


Jan 12 2013, 8:37pm

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yes I heard him say Radagast [In reply to] Can't Post

at the end of his appearance at Dol Goldur. But that was only because someone told me that's what he said. Hard to hear since he was only whispering.

"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


Jan 12 2013, 8:38pm

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I saw AUJ yesterday in IMAX 3-D, and I heard... [In reply to] Can't Post

the Necromancer whispering, indistinctly at first, then most definitely whispered "Radagast" 2 or 3 times.

" Well well!", said a voice. "Just look! Bilbo the hobbit on a pony, my dear! Isn't it delicious!"
"Most astonishing wonderful!"


Rosie-with-the-ribbons
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jan 12 2013, 9:14pm

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Radagast [In reply to] Can't Post

That is what the Dutch subtitles say and what I heard (but than it could be I heard it because I read it Crazy).

But I do believe I could hear "Radagast" in a kind of loud whisper and I could even hear it was Benedict Cumberbatch's voice.



DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 12 2013, 10:42pm

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I'll have to listen harder! [In reply to] Can't Post

Either way, they (PJ and co) didn't make it terribly obvious, did they? Cool


sycorax82
Rohan

Jan 13 2013, 2:59am

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What I don't get is why it even needs to be Benedict Cumberbatch's voice... [In reply to] Can't Post

He's voicing Smaug and his tones are very distinctive! So why not have another actor do the Necromancer?


ryouko
Lorien

Jan 13 2013, 3:08am

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Maybe [In reply to] Can't Post

we only see the somewhat physical form. Maybe we won't actually hear him talk. And perhaps it's one less actor to pay. After all, three of the Dwarves played the Trolls, instead of them being played by 3 other three actors.


Aragalen the Green
Gondor


Jan 13 2013, 3:11am

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It's hard to catch, [In reply to] Can't Post

the whispering is similar to Sauron's whispering through the Ring--kind of an echo effect is how I heard it.

" Well well!", said a voice. "Just look! Bilbo the hobbit on a pony, my dear! Isn't it delicious!"
"Most astonishing wonderful!"


redgiraffe
Rohan

Jan 13 2013, 3:59am

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speaking of black speech... [In reply to] Can't Post

I really don't want to start another thread on this but I haven't any confirmation from anyone.

Does anyone know what language the orcs were speaking? Was it the black speech or was it something different?

-Sir are you classified as human
-Negative, I am a meat-popsicle


ryouko
Lorien

Jan 13 2013, 4:04am

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It seems [In reply to] Can't Post

that I read in another thread, that they use Black Speech. I might be wrong though.


Mooseboy018
Gondor


Jan 13 2013, 5:45am

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Alan Howard [In reply to] Can't Post

They could have had Alan Howard return to be his voice.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 13 2013, 10:15am

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Yes, it's the Black Speech./ [In reply to] Can't Post

 


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 13 2013, 10:17am

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If all we get out of the Necromancer is a couple of whispers [In reply to] Can't Post

Then it doesn't matter does it? Nobody would guess it was Cumberbatch if they didn't already know it was him.

And I imagine they'll add something to his voice with Smaug. I hope he doesn't just use his normal voice. That would be awful.


Lightice
Lorien

Jan 13 2013, 12:31pm

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It's a matter of prestige and budget. [In reply to] Can't Post


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He's voicing Smaug and his tones are very distinctive! So why not have another actor do the Necromancer?


Benedict Cumberbatch has become a very high prestige actor in recent times and hiring him to play just Smaug or the Necromancer, neither who are likely to have that many lines or motion-captured screentime would be wasteful. There is no point in hiring another actor when one can do both roles.

Anyway, three of the dwarves also voiced and motion-captured the trolls and back in the LotR-trilogy John Rhys-Davies did both Gimli and Treebeard. It's a pretty commonplace practice for PJ to put actors in several roles if at least one of them doesn't require them to be physically present.

Benedict Cumberbatch has an excellent vocal range and it's certain that different digital sound effects will be used to enhance the two characters' voices, making them sound quite distinct from one another. You can be sure of that.


grammaboodawg
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Jan 13 2013, 3:36pm

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