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Lightice
Lorien
Jan 11, 11:46am
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I have no idea whether the flames are meant to insinuate the Balrog's presence or not, but if they are, I'm quite certain that it's all that we're going to see of that creature. Showing more would make nothing but a pointless cameo appearance and leave the audience expecting a confrontation with a monster that never plays into the main plot. Even in an extended film series that tries to cram in every reference it possibly can every scene needs to serve the plot in some manner. With the Balrog it would be nothing but a moment of: "oh, there's a Balrog, moving on". It wouldn't serve any purpose. If the scenes of Moria are extended to involve more details about why the dwarves didn't press on, I would very much prefer a minimalistic approach where Thrain (or Thorin) looks inside the gates, but the viewers don't see what he is looking at, and then comes back, visibly shaken and unwilling to explain what he saw. That kind of scene would work far better than the most impressively rendered Balrog cameo could ever hope for.
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Yeah. . . that is almost certainly not standard variety fire glowing in The East Gate. . .Durin's Bane seems right.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 7:25am
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The Balrog
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JWPlatt
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Jan 11, 8:22am
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I know what you mean, and I have the same hopes as you do,
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 8:56am
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I saw the glow both times i went
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imin
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Jan 11, 9:02am
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yeah it's a huge image
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Arthael
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Jan 11, 3:48pm
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come to think of it
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ryouko
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Jan 12, 5:16pm
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In the WETA Chronicles book
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DanielLB
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Jan 11, 9:05am
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I saw that too.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11, 9:07am
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There would be little point
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Lightice
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Jan 11, 11:46am
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That could still happen
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11, 1:43pm
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I don't see it happening...no way
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Rostron2
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Jan 11, 5:30pm
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Here you are wrong. This "creature", or rather this fell being, a Maia Demon
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 2:39am
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The true nature and history of the Balrog is wholly irrelevant to the discussion.
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Lightice
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Jan 12, 4:52pm
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Not entirely true, dear sir
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 6:00pm
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You would still be mistaken -- even further in the film continuity.
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Lightice
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Jan 12, 9:02pm
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Belligerent condecension aside,
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 9:28pm
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It very much looks like DB.
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TFP
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Jan 11, 11:35am
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Right
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11, 2:29pm
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Exactly, that would be another continuity error. No Balrog needed.
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xxxyyy
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Jan 11, 5:14pm
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Agreed
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Ave Moria
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Jan 11, 3:11pm
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Did anyone notice that Thorin was wearing the
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Elenorflower
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Jan 11, 11:26pm
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Yes!
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Yva
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Jan 11, 11:33pm
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Are you thinking it's Bilbo's shirt?
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entmaiden
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Jan 11, 11:42pm
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I admit it occured to me in a flash of fan over-excitement
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Yva
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Jan 12, 12:43am
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By the way, why are we assuming Moria was not retaken after that battle?
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xxxyyy
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Jan 12, 2:39pm
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the dwarves retook Moria?
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 12, 5:55pm
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That is exactly what happened. You
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 6:01pm
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that poster had my head spinning there for a sec
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 12, 7:34pm
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Lol. Yeah. All of our perspectives on how the films should unfold/ are unfolding,are at least somewhat
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 8:11pm
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I've seen AUJ only once. Did they say that in the movie? (NT)
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:09am
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What you said is in the book, not the movie.
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:38am
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it is a victory nevertheless
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 13, 6:53pm
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WhAAAAAAAA? If they retook Moria. .. . .
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12, 6:09pm
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Ah, Ok, then the question remains, why they did not establish their new home in Moria?
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:34am
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yes it could
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 13, 2:38am
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Then why is he there doing nothing?
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:48am
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I had thought about that. . . but I think one has to consider The Balrog further.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 13, 8:29am
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Ok, so you have made up your own movie about the Balrog, what about the casual viewers?
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xxxyyy
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Jan 13, 2:58pm
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it boils down to speculation
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 13, 6:50pm
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Yes, but if there's a Balrog there...
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xxxyyy
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Jan 14, 12:59am
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But they don't really need to go into deep explanation. Sometimes a little can still convey a lot.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 14, 2:19am
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Again, I think, movie wise, they have to enter deep into Moria.
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xxxyyy
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Jan 14, 5:23pm
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I don't have a huge problem with that idea, as long as they give some explanation
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 14, 10:55pm
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Whoa there.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 13, 9:22pm
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Again, you have to excuse my poor English...
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xxxyyy
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Jan 14, 12:46am
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That wouldn't have to be inconsistent.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 13, 8:14am
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its clearly the balrog....
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MouthofSauron
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Jan 12, 5:52pm
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