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A physical manifestation of dragon sickness?

Loresilme
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Jan 10 2013, 10:45pm


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Richard Armitage has hinted in several interviews that Thorin is going to take a dark turn indeed, and that we're going to "hate" him by the end.

In this Movieline interview, he talks about Thror and also something he refers to as the physical effects of dragon sickness, although I'm not quite sure from his remarks below whether he means we may see this manifestation in Thror in the third film (in flashback) or in Thorin. Full interview here. Excerpts below:


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Do you see that as his over-arching narrative throughout the film? [The renunciation of] greed? Or revenge?


It's more about yes, he was bequeathed a revenge upon Azog for his grandfather's beheading. He also has to take his people back to the mountain to reclaim the gold that was taken from them in this horrific Holocaust whereby the dragon came and decimated his people. It's not altruistic. It has to be personal and he wants to be King Under the Mountain. That means taking back the gold. The greed aspect is something that as he gets closer to the mountain, it's like the greed draws him and the gold corrupts him.



Certainly in the novel, as you speak of getting close to the mountain in physical distance, he also gets closer somehow to the character of Smaug.
I think he is probably corrupted by the gold as Smaug was fattened by it. But that's the aspect of Thorin's character that he's ashamed of. He knows it exists. It's like a line that runs through his family of greed. And when they come in contact with gold it corrupts them. It happened to his grandfather. I always imagined that Thorin was probably closer to [his grandfather] Thror than he was to [his father] Thrain. I think that Thror hid himself away when he got the dragon sickness, and Thorin kind of kept him behind closed doors and would nurse him through his sickness. Kept the door closed so no one ever saw the king. I think he witnessed the physical effects of that. So when we get into film III, you'll see the manifestation of what that is.



Physically?
A physical sense. It's not just the desire for greed. I saw it as a physical ailment. If [director] Pete [Jackson] decides to use that.


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A physical manifestation of dragon sickness? Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 10 2013, 10:45pm
    Guessing Rane Send a private message to Rane Jan 10 2013, 11:01pm
        In another interview, Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 10 2013, 11:58pm
    Thanks for finding this, Loresilme! ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Jan 10 2013, 11:04pm
        Agreed on the greed Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 10 2013, 11:29pm
        Nooooooo! ashonmytomatoes Send a private message to ashonmytomatoes Jan 10 2013, 11:31pm
        You're very welcome! The only other on-film hint Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 10 2013, 11:42pm
            I don't think he'll go *that* far Rane Send a private message to Rane Jan 11 2013, 12:09am
                I hope not Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 11 2013, 12:21am
                    My fault Rane Send a private message to Rane Jan 11 2013, 1:46am
                        Not at all! Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 11 2013, 7:30pm
    thanks Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 10 2013, 11:44pm
        You're welcome :-). I found another Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 11 2013, 12:15am
            Aha! Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 11 2013, 12:44am
    RA loves his in depth characterisations lindorian Send a private message to lindorian Jan 11 2013, 5:07pm
        This is hopefully the case Yva Send a private message to Yva Jan 11 2013, 10:56pm

 
 
 

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