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John Williams vs. Howard Shore


Nov 10 2012, 2:54am

Post #1 of 18 (2202 views)
John Williams vs. Howard Shore Can't Post

Whose music is better?


Nov 10 2012, 6:54am

Post #2 of 18 (1214 views)
Howard Shore! [In reply to] Can't Post

Howard Shore any day! For example Concerning Hobbits, no one can beat that!!


Nov 10 2012, 8:05am

Post #3 of 18 (1246 views)
Howard Shore! / [In reply to] Can't Post


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Nov 10 2012, 9:00am

Post #4 of 18 (1551 views)
Well, Shore did LOTR, Williams did Star Wars...that says everything [In reply to] Can't Post

Williams is a great, great composer, but he couldn't have brought justice to the superior LOTR trilogy in the way that Shore did. Every soundtrack in LOTR heightens the emotions to just the right level, in my opinion.

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Nov 11 2012, 1:33pm

Post #5 of 18 (1236 views)
Well when you grow up listening to John.. [In reply to] Can't Post

but we Know Howard is still at his Peak
& John is in November of his career.
My internet Radio station plays mostly
Movie Soundtracks and Ambient New Age.
So I often tear up hearing various Peices
of Howard's Score.

The Shire

Nov 11 2012, 5:22pm

Post #6 of 18 (1249 views)
Howard Shore [In reply to] Can't Post


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Nov 12 2012, 12:48am

Post #7 of 18 (1164 views)
Howard Shore [In reply to] Can't Post

Seeing as he is a great inspiration to myself and other composers.
I listen to his music every day!

'What are we holding on to, Sam?'
'There's good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for!'

'I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!'


Nov 12 2012, 3:38am

Post #8 of 18 (1305 views)
Williams overall, but Shore's LOTR is my all-time favorite [In reply to] Can't Post

Shore is an excellent composer, but only his LOTR scores have a special place in my heart, whereas I generally like John Williams' output more consistently. Nothing he has written matches what Shore accomplished with LOTR (in my opinion), though Star Wars comes closest.

Flame of Udun

Nov 12 2012, 2:47pm

Post #9 of 18 (1244 views)
I have to agree with you [In reply to] Can't Post

John Williams is a fantastic all-around composer, but if were to go head-to-head with each composer's best masterpiece (star wars vs LOTR) then Shore blows Williams out of the water. Sure Star Wars has some of the most iconic songs to come out of a movie, but almost none of the songs have the depth of emotion that Shore conveys in the LOTR soundtrack.

"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Balrog! A Balrog is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Durin's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face.
'A Balrog,' muttered Gandalf. 'Now I understand. What an evil fortune! And I am already weary.''


Nov 13 2012, 12:22am

Post #10 of 18 (1192 views)
I have to say that [In reply to] Can't Post

they both work for the genre they're most famous for. Williams worked very well for SW and Shore was brilliant for LotR.

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Nov 13 2012, 4:35am

Post #11 of 18 (1338 views)
Something to bear in mind [In reply to] Can't Post


In fairness, John Williams is more than about Star Wars. He has done themes for quite a few other big movies that are very iconic and recognizable by many. Indiana Jones and the Tower of Sorcery, Close Encounters of the 3rd Age, Jaws (Just a Watcher, Swimming), Hairy Plodder series, E.T. the Elvish Terrestrial, Back to the Fourth Age, etc.

Or as the comedic acapella quartet Moosebutter puts it,
John Williams is the Man . I tend to agree.

Similarly, Howard Shore is more than about LOTR and the Hobbit. In my case, though, those are the only movies for which theme music of Shore's I have paid attention.

But as great as John Williams' body of work may be, IMO, it fails to surpass what Shore has done for Middle Earth. As others have mentioned, Williams' style would not have done it justice.

They are both equally The Man.

A bag is like a hole that you can carry with you.



Nov 15 2012, 11:01pm

Post #12 of 18 (1281 views)
Seeing how they are both excellent composers... [In reply to] Can't Post

It is a difficult decision. Williams seems to be adept in composing for films that fit in the genre of action, such as Indiana Jones, Star Wars, etc., while Shore can really capture the feel of traditional fantasy.

'What are we holding on to, Sam?'
'There's good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for!'

'I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!'


Nov 16 2012, 1:41am

Post #13 of 18 (1667 views)
Depends [In reply to] Can't Post

On the genre of movie but no doubt when it comes to Middle Earth. Howard Shore!

Noel Q. von Schneiffel

Nov 18 2012, 6:58pm

Post #14 of 18 (1085 views)
I didn't think about it in terms of "whose music is better"... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I was thinking "battle". You know, both of them in a room, armed only with saxophones, trying to trumpet each other's drumheads to pieces.

Who would win? And would the winner be able to hear the victory announcement?

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Nov 18 2012, 7:02pm

Post #15 of 18 (1401 views)
In that case Williams [In reply to] Can't Post


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Nov 19 2012, 5:30am

Post #16 of 18 (1169 views)
So in other words... [In reply to] Can't Post

it's a Battle of Bombast? Yeah, I'd probably go with Williams too; he's more famous for the big horn fanfares.



Nov 21 2012, 12:53am

Post #17 of 18 (1312 views)
They are both wonderful [In reply to] Can't Post

I loved Williams music for Harry Potter, it conjures the magical world perfectly. and Shore conjures LOTR perfectly. Its a win win. Evil


Jan 8 2013, 7:28pm

Post #18 of 18 (1482 views)
Howard Shore [In reply to] Can't Post

No other modern composer's music affects me the way his has. Other composers' music is just music. Wonderful to listen to yes, but just accompaniment. Shore's music has meaning, a language of its own.


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