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A movie about the dunedains and angmar?


Jan 7 2013, 1:49pm

Post #1 of 8 (315 views)
A movie about the dunedains and angmar? Can't Post

Could that be possible and would it fit in one movie or a trilogy? If a movie of that would be made, would be at least epical like LOTR?

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Jan 7 2013, 6:25pm

Post #2 of 8 (171 views)
It might work I suppose... [In reply to] Can't Post

One could probably get at least two films out of it; one showing the fracturing of Arnor, with a lot of political intrigue as Arthedain, Rhuadar and Cardolan are divided by some shadowy, unknown force...and a second film where the realm of Angmar/the Witch-King are revealed and there's all out war. Earnur and Glorfindel could be major characters as well, allowing us to include Gondor and the Elves of Rivendell at the time.

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Jan 7 2013, 8:25pm

Post #3 of 8 (175 views)
Possibly but I doubt it [In reply to] Can't Post

You probably could make a movie about the fall of Arnor but would audiences (other than the hard core Tolkien fans) care? There wouldn't be enough characters people recognize or a strong enough connection to the other films. In the Lord of the Rings movies, the only reference to Arnor is a line from Aragorn in the Extended Edition about how "the North Kingdom fell long ago." Movie audiences don't know the history. As far as they know, Aragorn was simply a distant relation of the King of Gondor raised far away in another land. There were some mentions of the fall of Angmar in the Hobbit movie but again, is it enough to build recognition for a movie-only audience?


Jan 8 2013, 12:14am

Post #4 of 8 (178 views)
interesting - some thoughts [In reply to] Can't Post

It could work, not least because the studio has the rights to the main source material - the Appendices to LotR. One of the difficulties would be in constructing a narrative compelling and cogent enough for a screenplay. It takes Angmar 474 years to completely destroy the Dúnedain kingdoms of the North, so in order to avoid a film almost entirely made up of flashbacks, you'd have to compress things a bit. One suggestion would be to set most of the 'present' near to the tragic end of Arthedain - the war going badly, Arvedui's last ditch efforts to hold out, and his awful run of luck with timing - Glorfindel and Eärnur turning up too late, and the disaster in the Icebay of Forochel, which was also down to bad timing.

Nice opportunities to depict Glorfindel and Círdan in action, Gondor's military might, the fate of the Northern palantíri, Malbeth's prophecy and the first Chieftain of the Dúnedain, the prophecy of how the Witch-king perishes, a foreshadowing of the cost of Eärnur's pride (his humiliation before the Witch-king and his foolish decision to travel to Minas Morgul, thus ending of the line of Kings in Gondor), the arrival of the Barrow-wights in Tyrn Gorthad, hobbit archers heading off to aid Arvedui... the list goes on!

A nice tie-in to Aragorn is that the rise of Angmar effectively brings about the end of two separate kingdoms - Arthedain / Arnor (directly) and Gondor (indirectly) - which Aragorn then reunites. The Witch-king militarily obliterates Arthedain, and then, due to their stand-off outside Fornost, indirectly sets up Eärnur's ill-fated duel with the Witch-king at Minas Morgul. Both kingly lines descended from Elendil are therefore either driven into the shadows or killed off entirely by one nasty protagonist.

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Jan 8 2013, 4:24am

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Perhaps. [In reply to] Can't Post

With as long as each trilogy has taken Jackson, do you think its realistic that he'd make another Tolkien movie? Serious question. Although, no one said he is the only director from now on that can make Tolkien-inspired movies. I guess I just assumed that no one would do it as well. Heh.

Also, it would totally get my vote.

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(This post was edited by Ajent on Jan 8 2013, 4:25am)


Jan 8 2013, 6:28am

Post #6 of 8 (154 views)
Would be awesome! [In reply to] Can't Post

I' d rather they make a movies about Angmar and the remnants of the dunedains than The Hobbit! After I've wacthed the hobbit, I felt the movie was more childish than LOTR. It wasn't enoug serious tone in the movie. I've had too much expectationsto the hobbit to be like LOTRUnimpressed


Jan 8 2013, 1:42pm

Post #7 of 8 (126 views)
I think this would be easier to pull of than a movie Silmarillion [In reply to] Can't Post

but it would still require a significant amount of creative story-telling to fill in dialogue etc.

Anyway, I think the audience would be likely to receive something like this pretty well (if done well).

Since so much of it needs to be generated by the production team, I could see it fitting in 1 or 3 films.


Jan 8 2013, 4:41pm

Post #8 of 8 (159 views)
I don't see it happening [In reply to] Can't Post

Without the rights to some other Tolkien material. (Unfinished Tales) However, it's certainly an idea that could be interesting to write a script for. Very challenging.

Actually, the period where Gondor first meets the Rohirrim in the time of Eorl the Young would make for quite a glorious miniseries. What you're describing might be done the same way, a la Game of Thrones.

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