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Joy, Health, Love, and Peace... Be all here in this place

Magpie
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Jan 5 2013, 5:34pm

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Joy, Health, Love, and Peace... Be all here in this place Can't Post

so starts the song, "The Wren," alternately known as "The King," which ends with:
Old Christmas is past, Twelfth Night is the last, And we bid you adieu, great joy to the new.


Twelfth Night is either Jan 5 or 6, depending on how you see things. Wikipedia says,

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There is some confusion these days, however, as to which night is Twelfth Night: modern practice is often to regard the night of Epiphany itself (sixth of January) to be Twelfth Night. The older tradition of Twelfth Night being the 5 January stems from the medieval practice of the day beginning at sunset, rather than at midnight as it does now. Thus Twelfth Night falls on 5 January, ahead of Twelfth Day on the 6th.


But surely the traditions surrounding the wren at Christmas time are ancient. :-)

And, no matter whether you celebrate Twelfth Night on the evening of the 5 and The Twelfth Day of Christmas on the 6. Or The Twelfth Day of Christmas on the 6 and Twelfth Night on the evening of that day... it's the 5th in some our houses and the 6th in others.

I always feel it takes me about till Jan 5 to catch my breath from the holidays and start thinking about welcoming a 'new year'. So:
Joy, Health, Love, and Peace, be all here in this place. Old Christmas is past, Twelfth Night is the last, And we bid you adieu, great joy to the new.

I really love singing this with others. It has some lovely harmonies.
hear it by Steeleye Span here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_4lhU6q46Y


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Arandiel
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Jan 5 2013, 5:53pm

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Now that I have the Loreena McKennitt version in my ear, [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you, Magpie! For the great song and the wonderful post.

Great joy to you!


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Lily Fairbairn
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Jan 5 2013, 6:05pm

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Thank you! [In reply to] Can't Post

What a lovely sentiment, and a lovely song. I don't think much about Steeleye Span these days, but back when I had their records (you know, actual vinyl records) I listened until I had them memorized.

Cheers! Heart




Magpie
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Jan 5 2013, 6:51pm

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another great version is [In reply to] Can't Post

by Nowell Sing We Clear... although their tune is a little different than the one I'm used to singing.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/...n-King/dp/B002GGFYNO


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Magpie
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Jan 5 2013, 6:55pm

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I came upon Steeleye Span way after everyone else [In reply to] Can't Post

so I was late to the game.

Discovering English traditional music was like coming home for me. It was like the home I didn't know I had left. I love it. (and I love all those quirky Brit/UK folk traditions) Of course, Steeleye Span does their own version of a lot of this. :-)

They were my gateway drug to Martin Carthy and the Watersons.


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Starling
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Jan 5 2013, 9:00pm

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My Mum, bless her [In reply to] Can't Post

told me she felt very silly when someone corrected her after she referred to them as 'Steel Ice Band'. She had been mishearing the name for years.


Magpie
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Jan 5 2013, 9:33pm

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lol... [In reply to] Can't Post

it does sound like that. And it make more sense than Steeleye Span.


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Starling
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Jan 5 2013, 9:49pm

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Yes, I quite liked her version :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


silneldor
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Jan 6 2013, 3:56am

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Magpie, i do believe [In reply to] Can't Post

you have a delightful way to sum things up:).
I am wishful, very much so, the same for you.
I enjoyed the music as well, but i do not recall this group from my younger days though.
The wren song reminded me of a little happening just past. Mrs. sil and i were walking up the path through the very quiet wood in the cold and the only greeting we had of that event was a wren running/hopping up and down a red maple about 20-30ft away chirping it's little high pitched note tapping the bark about the tree for a frozen or dormant morsel. The little drama was a true delight.

The sun is indeed still low at noon, but it is out making everything sparkle. A little higher each day will bring us May:).















dernwyn
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Jan 6 2013, 1:14pm

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You were greeted by the Wren! [In reply to] Can't Post

What a magical moment that must have been!

There is something peaceful about walking through wintering woods in the snow...a quietness that is found no other time of year, allowing for perfect clarity in listening to the chirping! Smile


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dernwyn
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Jan 6 2013, 1:29pm

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A Twelfthnight blessing! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you, Magpie! Smile

The holiday season is ended - although it always makes me a bit sad, to put the lights and decorations away, still now it's evident that the New Year is well underway, with the sun rising earlier and setting later.

And the Wren song has brought Loreena McKennitt's Mummer's Dance to mind - but that's getting a bit too advanced in the year! Laugh


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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Jan 6 2013, 2:43pm

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I, of course, am most familiar with the Roberts and Barrand version of this. [In reply to] Can't Post

(That's the Nowell Sing We Clear version you linked to.) I really love wren songs, and this is among the most lovely. Thanks for bringing it to mind. It's playing beautifully in my head now.


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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Jan 6 2013, 2:53pm

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I don't think it's really a different tune than the Steeley Span version. [In reply to] Can't Post

Tony Barrand often throws in some rather loud harmonies that overshadow the actual tune. There are several songs that I learned from Nowell Sing We Clear that I find out years later I've been singing "wrong", having focused on the harmony and not the melody. It happened with the Boar's Head carol and Reynardine and The Maid on the Shore, among others. When I find them elsewhere, I think "That's not the way I learned it" but when I sing the melody with what I thought I knew, they fit together.


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Aunt Dora Baggins
Half-elven


Jan 6 2013, 2:59pm

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Here's another of my favorite wren songs, also from Nowell Sing We Clear [In reply to] Can't Post

The Wren Boys' Song (lyrics)

Here's a sample of the recording. We really like to belt this one out at our house.


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Magpie
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Jan 6 2013, 3:12pm

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I like The Cutty Wren a lot [In reply to] Can't Post

lyrics

audio

You might be right about the melody for the Nowell Sing We Clear version of The King.

I've had the same problem with shape note singing - picking out the primary melody.

btw: I ran across a interview with Tony Barrand who said The King was his favorite carol ... or folk song, I forget which. :-)


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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Jan 6 2013, 3:13pm

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I love the Cutty Wren too. I play it on my harp :-) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Jan 6 2013, 3:14pm

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The first wren song I ever learned was about a rat. [In reply to] Can't Post

When I was a kid we had a Burl Ives record with this song on it: Billy Barlow. It wasn't until thirty years later that I first heard about wren songs and realized that Billy Barlow was an American version of the Cutty Wren. Except that Billy and his friends Risky Rob, Robin, Bob, Dan'l and Joe are hunting a rat! Apparently it was misheard as it went across the Atlantic.


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Annael
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Jan 6 2013, 4:19pm

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Love and Happiness [In reply to] Can't Post

here's my song for all of you. I'll be singing it at church soon, with Bill-of-the-Awesome-Bass-Voice.

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Magpie
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Jan 6 2013, 4:34pm

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wow, they sure 'Americanized' that song, didn't they. :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

I always enjoy tracking stories and tunes like this.


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Magpie
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Jan 6 2013, 4:35pm

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I really love Emmy Lou // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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AlassŽa Eruvande
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Jan 6 2013, 5:59pm

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Oooo, we had a wren get inside the house on Jan 5th! [In reply to] Can't Post

We were all over at Mr. Eruvande's brother's house watching the Cotton Bowl game. My b.i.l. opened the front door and a wren flew in from the porch. Much hilarity ensued for the next 15-20 minutes as we tried to help the little guy find his way out again. High ceilings are not helpful in this situation. So I guess you could say we had our own "wren hunt". Laugh

Happy New Year!



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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Jan 7 2013, 4:28am

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I recorded my version of Cutty Wren to share with you. [In reply to] Can't Post

me playing the Cutty Wren


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Patty
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Jan 7 2013, 4:41am

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And the same to you, Magpie./ [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Magpie
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Jan 7 2013, 4:45am

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It sounds so much prettier... [In reply to] Can't Post

on the harp then when you have all those male voices kind of grunting out the verses, doesn't it?

It really is a lovely tune. Thanks for playing it for us.


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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Jan 7 2013, 4:57am

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Apparently it's traditional to bang staves on the ground while singing it. [In reply to] Can't Post

Sounds very dwarvish. But the harp mellows out everything.

By the way, did you hear the silly harp version I did of the Rankin Bass Hobbit songs? NE Brigand made a satirical suggestion that I should play 'Fifteen Birds in Five Fir Trees' and I threw it together along with a few other tunes. My daughter commented that those goblin songs didn't sound nearly as menacing when played on a harp. Me playing silly stuff on the harp


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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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leleni at hotmail dot com
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