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Annael
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Jan 4 2013, 4:52pm
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really off-topic: the true cause of most violent crime
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I just ran across this article (actually, I read an article about it published in Forbes and then went looking for the original) that I found fascinating: leaded gasoline may be behind most violent crime!
I've heard, but don't have a citation, that some suspect it's a culprit in the rising rates of autism too.
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imin
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Jan 4 2013, 5:53pm
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It may have slowed down global warming. Whether this is true or not i dont know but here is the article.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/04/090419-lead-clouds-global-warming.html
I say kinda as it still pollutes the environment and causes hundreds of thousands of deaths.
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DanielLB
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Jan 4 2013, 6:11pm
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My head hurts after reading that .... /
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JWPlatt
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Jan 4 2013, 10:28pm
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It happened to the Romans with their leaded water supply pipes. You would think knowing that, we'd be wiser.
Nope.
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imin
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Jan 4 2013, 10:49pm
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Badly written/inaccurateor poor wording from me? lol //
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DanielLB
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Jan 4 2013, 10:53pm
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I meant the article on the NG website. The science is sound, it's just badly written (from my perspective anyway). They also sound surprised - this kind of thing has been known for years.
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imin
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Jan 4 2013, 11:03pm
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At least the science is sound, if badly written!
I as a layman had no idea lead has slowed the progress of global warming. I have always just heard bad things it does to cars, environment and people.
Oh well i caught up eventually with this knowledge today, haha.
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 5 2013, 6:55pm
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Unleaded gasoline is now the norm (at least in the U.S.)...
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I don't see this as being anything more than junk science.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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N.E. Brigand
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Jan 5 2013, 11:11pm
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That's one of the points made by the article.
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(This post was edited by N.E. Brigand on Jan 5 2013, 11:14pm)
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 6 2013, 3:27pm
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If nothing else, the hypothesis may bear further investigation. However, action should not be taken without stronger evidence that leads to proof.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Annael
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Jan 6 2013, 4:20pm
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the author conducted an extensive review of research from many countries
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the evidence is pretty solid.
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N.E. Brigand
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Jan 9 2013, 2:17pm
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"How Did Lead Get Into Our Gasoline, Anyway?"
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I read two short follow-up pieces to that article. A great quote from the first piece on familiar patterns:
We start using something before we understand whether it’s safe. We begin to discover it’s not safe. Industry obscures the science and viciously battles off regulation for as long as possible, forecasting economic doom. Lots of people get sick and die while they do so. Finally some regulations are put in place. The costs of complying turn out to be lower than anyone predicted. The benefits turn out to be much greater than anyone predicted. The pollutant turns out to be more harmful than originally thought. Despite all of the above, industry continues battling efforts to further reduce the pollutant, while claiming credit for the benefits of reducing it as much as they were forced to.
And the second piece notes that the toxicity of tetraeythl lead was privately acknowledged by its creators even before a patent was filed.
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N.E. Brigand
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Jan 10 2013, 8:22pm
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"like using a child’s magnifying glass to try to investigate the structure of a skin cell"
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Jim Manzi notes that the principal study cited in that article shows that increased exposure to lead seems to correlate only with increased numbers of assaults but not increased numbers of murders or increased numbers of property crimes. Puzzled by this, he goes on to examine the statistical tools used to make the analysis, and suggests some flaws.
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