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Erally
Bree

Jan 4 2013, 8:43am

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was a little disappointed Peter chose to do it in 3D? I kind of hoped he was like Christopher Nolan and chose to do it in normal 2d which is much better...


Starling
Half-elven


Jan 4 2013, 8:46am

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It isn't compulsory to see it in 3D. Smile


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 4 2013, 8:47am

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I didn't have a problem with the 3D [In reply to] Can't Post

The film didn't really seem like a 3D film - it wasn't overdone (like many animated 3D films), and it wasn't really obvious (like Avatar).

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Joe20
Lorien


Jan 4 2013, 8:50am

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you can watch it in 2D Tongue. But seriously, I loved the 3D (and 48fps) I felt it added alot. Especially during the goblin town sequence. It really helped to show the vastness of the area.

And another stand out section was the eagle rescue on the way to the Carrock. THis shot was spectacular in 3D and 48fps. I felt like I was going to fall into the screen Smile




Mooseboy018
Gondor


Jan 4 2013, 8:53am

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Did the fact that it was shot in 3D somehow mess with your 2D viewing experience?

I don't see it as that big of a deal. I don't like how 3D has become such a big money grab for studios after Avatar, but the Hobbit's 3D was actually done right, so I didn't have a problem with it.

And it didn't change the look of the film. PJ's style didn't suddenly change just because they were shooting it in 3D.


herzogian
Bree

Jan 4 2013, 8:54am

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Not me. 3d works good on this epic adventure movies. Certainly with all the landscapes. Secondly, you dont have to watch it in 3d or hfr, there's also a 2d version.
I understand the anger with the studio's who want there movies in 3d just for the sake of having 3d.Thats wrong cause not all movies work with 3d, batman or james bond etc wouldnt realy benefit from 3d. (the avengers didnt for me)

But the hobbit with its landscapes and sets, in my opinion, benefits from it. Mirkwood will be magical in 3d.


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Jan 4 2013, 9:50am

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I don't see why you should be disappointed... [In reply to] Can't Post

after all, as others have pointed out, there are in fact 7(?) different formats you can view the movie in. I personally didn't enjoy the 3D even though I've not been that bothered by it before, although the glasses are a pain and I feel like I'm being blinkered by them, but as I've said elsewhere, I simply prefer to see Middle-earth in 2D so that it matches the LotR experience for me.


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Arannir
Valinor

Jan 4 2013, 10:15am

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Why when you can easily watch it in 2D? [In reply to] Can't Post

Because it sounds so nicely elitistic/artistic to be anti-3D?


Erally
Bree

Jan 4 2013, 10:56am

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In my hometown I was only able to watch it in 3D // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Starling
Half-elven


Jan 4 2013, 11:22am

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Oh darn [In reply to] Can't Post

so it *was* compulsory for you to see it in 3D!
I enjoyed it in 3D, but I would be grumpy if it was my only choice, as I enjoyed it more in 2D at my second viewing.


mefansmum
Rivendell

Jan 4 2013, 1:44pm

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I liked it better it in 3D HFR [In reply to] Can't Post

so no complaints from me.


triptrap
Lorien

Jan 4 2013, 1:48pm

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but yes, there are places where you have no choice. i didn't have to watch it in 3d but in my town there was only 48fps and i really would have liekd to watch it the "traditional" way


Arannir
Valinor

Jan 4 2013, 2:08pm

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But that is the choice of the theatre's then... [In reply to] Can't Post

... and not really the reason for PJ (and especially the studio) to stay away from a technology he believes in.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 4 2013, 2:10pm

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I was under the impression that ... [In reply to] Can't Post

All cinemas showing TH automatically got sent the 2D version. They only get sent the 3D version if they opt in.

Either way, it's the cinema's odd decision. Perhaps they thought more people would prefer the 3D version?


imin
Valinor


Jan 4 2013, 2:14pm

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No no not about preferences [In reply to] Can't Post

It is about money - 3d tickets make more money.

If the cinema thinks it can get away with just showing something that costs more they will - just business.


Lost Hobbit
Rivendell


Jan 4 2013, 2:53pm

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At least I had an option to watch it in classic 2D and I did, two times. Intended to go to 48 fps, but just gave up thinking of it, watching old 2d helps me in with comparing the film visually with the previous trilogy. Don't need any 3d or 48 fps, I want all three of them to stay in my memory they way it should've originally been. So I don't care about Peter emphasizing the 3D 48 fps topic, I've got my own version of the film.



unexpectedvisitor
Rohan

Jan 4 2013, 3:10pm

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i would have [In reply to] Can't Post

if it had overly compromised the way they composed the shots in the movie. when some early reviews came back saying, "the 3D doesn't do all that much," i was breathing a sigh of relief. in fact, the only shot i felt like was a real obvious play on the 3D was the very brief one where the Troll's teeth get knocked out towards the screen, but it still worked fine in the 2D viewing, I wasn't thinking, "oh, yeah, that was supposed to be 3D." compare this to a horrible movie like Harold & Kumar's Christmas where there are just a ton of shots you can tell were set up in a certain way only because they were trying to maximize the 3D effect with little concern to how well the shots actually worked together or in the movie as a whole.

so, yeah, no problem with it. i've never liked 3D but it's an option that some people do. if it doesn't have a serious impact on the compositions then it's fine with me.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 4 2013, 3:18pm

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But they should've had the 2D version regardless [In reply to] Can't Post

Then again ... I'm basing this on UK cinema's.


unexpectedvisitor
Rohan

Jan 4 2013, 3:18pm

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oh, wow, yeah...that sucks [In reply to] Can't Post

that's really weird. pretty sure the filmmakers would have liked everyone to have the option of watching it in 2D but they don't really control that stuff; i'm surprised 3D was your only option where you live. usually the 2D showings are the most common if there's only one option available...


unexpectedvisitor
Rohan

Jan 4 2013, 3:21pm

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what? you had HFR without 3D? [In reply to] Can't Post

i didn't think they had non-3D HFR versions of the film?


Lost Hobbit
Rivendell


Jan 4 2013, 4:24pm

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No [In reply to] Can't Post

There is not such things as non-3d hfr.

I wonder how will the film look like oh hi-khz screen/broadcast.


Rostron2
Gondor


Jan 4 2013, 5:30pm

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I can concur on that... [In reply to] Can't Post

The 3-D was subtle, except in some places where it became really breathtaking.


DanielLB
Immortal


Jan 4 2013, 5:57pm

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Unless you close one eye! [In reply to] Can't Post

Or get those special glasses. Cool


pandoraziki
Rivendell

Jan 4 2013, 6:22pm

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I enjoyed the 3D version [In reply to] Can't Post

As it's not really done to be "in your face", but rather to enhance the depth of field of the picture.


percy
The Shire

Jan 4 2013, 7:52pm

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I was a little bit irked when I heard that it was going to be shot in 3D, just because it is and always will be a simple novelty, and one that not everyone can even view properly. I don't necessarily mind the format, but I'll only ever opt to watch a 3D movie for one viewing. Every other time after that, it's 2D for me.

In my town, the theater only offered 24p 3D, so that's what I saw it in originally because I didn't want to go out of town. It was fine, but utterly superfluous. But as others have said, the fact that it was shot in 3D didn't radically alter the style from LOTR. It was much more relaxing to watch it in 2D in my second viewing, however.

I understand why studios and even filmmakers want to push 3D, as the concept is certainly attractive in theory... but in reality, most viewers are accustomed to 2D, (and 24p while we're at it) simply because that is part of the whole grammar of filmmaking that's been established for decades. That isn't to say that an artist should be stifled by old forms, but it should always be optional to view in 3D, HFR, etc.

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