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Excellent observation

Kimtc
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Jan 2 2013, 3:05am


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Excellent observation [In reply to] Can't Post

"I think perhaps we have more of an indication that his future actions will be due to this brooding and anger over the events of the past, and that these things were included in AUJ to show his mindset and set up for the effect it's going to have on his character once he does get back into his old realm."

It makes more sense, from a cinematic vantage, for movie Thorin to have his meltdown over pride, as opposed to mostly just gold like book Thorin.The latter would turn off audiences and give him a far less grand character arc. The former would be more sympathetic, while still wrong-headed.

One question: what do you think will actually cause the meltdown? Thranduil re: the Arkenstone? The men and elves asking for gold (which he sees as a "legacy" of his kingdom)? Not being the one to kill the dragon (personally I can see him getting huffy about this)? All of the above? I feel for movie purposes they will have to have one straw/camel moment, not a bunch of stuff.

Subject User Time
Bilbo and Thorin character arcs in the Desolation of Smaug burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit Jan 1 2013, 5:32pm
    Jealousy? Joe-Mathews Send a private message to Joe-Mathews Jan 1 2013, 5:44pm
        Why is that? Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 1 2013, 6:29pm
            Not main motivation. Joe-Mathews Send a private message to Joe-Mathews Jan 1 2013, 6:48pm
        Jealousy and humiliation. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jan 1 2013, 10:38pm
    Interesting thoughts. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 1 2013, 7:39pm
        Maybe the dwarves are more active in Mirkwood and the Barrel Escape burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit Jan 1 2013, 8:05pm
            I'd guess less Thorins heroic competance and more his grudges... moreorless Send a private message to moreorless Jan 2 2013, 8:11am
        I would think we'd see a different Thorin than is in the book Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Jan 2 2013, 8:04am
            Actually, I think you're right. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 2 2013, 9:44am
                I agree with the epic fury part when it comes to light Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 2 2013, 3:44pm
                    Yes, I'm sure we will see a lot more that's motivating Bilbo Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Jan 2 2013, 4:04pm
    Well Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 1 2013, 9:53pm
        All of this! Spot on.// Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jan 1 2013, 10:44pm
        Excellent observation Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 2 2013, 3:05am
            Capture by the Elves perhaps Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 2 2013, 3:37pm
                Elf-absorbed! Excellent. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 2 2013, 5:26pm
                Yeah marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Jan 2 2013, 9:11pm
    That's an interesting interpretation! Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Jan 2 2013, 3:52pm
        RE: Escapist Ref Send a private message to Ref Jan 2 2013, 11:31pm

 
 
 

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