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Not main motivation.

Joe-Mathews
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Jan 1 2013, 6:48pm


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Not main motivation. [In reply to] Can't Post

It is just a stray thought. I don't think he did it purposefully; more a subconscious motive than the primary. Thorin didn't want Bilbo along from the start.

Yes, this was the task Bilbo was contracted for. It was the only thing Thorin expected to need him for. From Thorin's perspective, the burglar might as well get his task over with and then leave the rest to the dwarves. It's not too far to think Thorin thought of Bilbo as dragon-fodder.

Thorin could make the argument that all the trouble they got into along the way started with Bilbo's bungling. (Bad pick-pocketing the trolls, not alerting them to the doorstep orc attack quick enough, failure to steal elf banquet food, poor escape accommodations, angering the dragon...) I don't agree with that thought, but Thorin might have.

'There is some woe that lies upon you... Why will you not tell me more?'
'For that woe is past,' said Galadriel; 'and I would take what joy is here left, untroubled by memory. And maybe there is woe enough yet to come, thought still hope may seem bright.'

Subject User Time
Bilbo and Thorin character arcs in the Desolation of Smaug burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit Jan 1 2013, 5:32pm
    Jealousy? Joe-Mathews Send a private message to Joe-Mathews Jan 1 2013, 5:44pm
        Why is that? Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 1 2013, 6:29pm
            Not main motivation. Joe-Mathews Send a private message to Joe-Mathews Jan 1 2013, 6:48pm
        Jealousy and humiliation. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jan 1 2013, 10:38pm
    Interesting thoughts. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 1 2013, 7:39pm
        Maybe the dwarves are more active in Mirkwood and the Barrel Escape burrahobbit Send a private message to burrahobbit Jan 1 2013, 8:05pm
            I'd guess less Thorins heroic competance and more his grudges... moreorless Send a private message to moreorless Jan 2 2013, 8:11am
        I would think we'd see a different Thorin than is in the book Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Jan 2 2013, 8:04am
            Actually, I think you're right. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Jan 2 2013, 9:44am
                I agree with the epic fury part when it comes to light Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 2 2013, 3:44pm
                    Yes, I'm sure we will see a lot more that's motivating Bilbo Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Jan 2 2013, 4:04pm
    Well Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 1 2013, 9:53pm
        All of this! Spot on.// Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Jan 1 2013, 10:44pm
        Excellent observation Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 2 2013, 3:05am
            Capture by the Elves perhaps Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 2 2013, 3:37pm
                Elf-absorbed! Excellent. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 2 2013, 5:26pm
                Yeah marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Jan 2 2013, 9:11pm
    That's an interesting interpretation! Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Jan 2 2013, 3:52pm
        RE: Escapist Ref Send a private message to Ref Jan 2 2013, 11:31pm

 
 
 

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