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Joe-Mathews
Bree
Jan 1, 4:24am
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While we want all 13 dwarves to have significant camera time and individual characters, it is impossible. Even if there were 13 films instead of three, there's no time. One thing I've learned very quickly from this board (and from Jackson's films) is that some people love certain characters, some was equality, some want Tolkien's dialog to stay with the same dwarf Tolkien gave it to, and some just want to replace Peter Jackson in the director's chair.
I thought Merry's character was horribly pushed aside in LotR. (Not to mention Fatty Bolger)
Even if all the dwarves' dialog were split in equal 1/13th shares, some of us would start counting the letters to see if that was balanced, too. And a few of us would translate each line into dwarvish to see if it balanced there, too.
Fili and Kili deserve equal time and equal deaths, but it won't happen. Even Tolkien paired or trio-ed the dwarves so he didn't even have to try to differentiate them all. Sadly, Fili and Kili are more a pair than two separate dwarves.
I think giving Kili the bulk of the lines will help the audience connect with the pair, rather than trying to divide the lines and emotional connection between both.
In my own way, I'm hoping PJ leaves some of the dwarves in the background. I like a little left to my imagination.
'There is some woe that lies upon you... Why will you not tell me more?'
'For that woe is past,' said Galadriel; 'and I would take what joy is here left, untroubled by memory. And maybe there is woe enough yet to come, thought still hope may seem bright.'
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Kili more important than Fili? *SPOILERS*
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Rane
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Jan 1, 3:27am
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I don't think there's anything to fear
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Ardamírë
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Jan 1, 3:36am
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I started noticing this a while ago.
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sauget.diblosio
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Jan 1, 3:39am
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For the ladies
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Rane
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Jan 1, 3:44am
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Equal balance impossible
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Joe-Mathews
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Jan 1, 4:24am
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The truth is...
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Silverlode
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Jan 1, 4:27am
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It's hard to draw conclusions after only one movie.
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entmaiden
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Jan 1, 4:33am
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Used to think movie would have fewer dwarves
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Kimtc
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Jan 1, 4:36am
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I didn't suggest giving all the dwarves equal time,
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sauget.diblosio
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Jan 1, 4:46am
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Kili just as good as other dwarves
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Mahtion
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Jan 1, 4:59am
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Well, i'm stating my opinion,
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sauget.diblosio
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Jan 1, 5:42am
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If you haven't read the book, spoilers below.
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entmaiden
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Jan 1, 5:26am
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Why do you think Kili is the least interesting?
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dormouse
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Jan 1, 4:33pm
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That's hard to say.
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sauget.diblosio
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Jan 1, 5:01pm
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That's pretty much my feelings on the character...
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Eleniel
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Jan 1, 7:48pm
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Oh these two...
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CathrineB
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Jan 1, 8:20pm
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Well said.
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sauget.diblosio
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Jan 1, 8:40pm
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:)
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marillaraina
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Jan 1, 10:47pm
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Holy wow THAT was an amazing post!! *applause*
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CathrineB
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Jan 1, 11:12pm
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All that sounds great,
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sauget.diblosio
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Jan 1, 11:36pm
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;)
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marillaraina
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Jan 1, 11:49pm
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No, Kili was not singled out.
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sauget.diblosio
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Jan 2, 12:49am
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For Kili
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Aelfan
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Jan 2, 7:28pm
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Agreed! Not to mention quality > quantity
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RhodeCamelot
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Jan 1, 5:26am
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Agreed *book spoilers again*
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Rane
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Jan 1, 5:38am
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:)
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marillaraina
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Jan 1, 10:06pm
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I hate to be the one to point this out...
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Avnar
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Jan 1, 6:43am
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A dreaded possibility
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Mahtion
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Jan 1, 6:50am
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I seriously doubt it
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dubulous
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Jan 1, 8:56am
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So don't think about it...
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dormouse
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Jan 1, 9:05am
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spoiler alert
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carrioncrow
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Jan 1, 2:58pm
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Well *spoilers*
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Rane
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Jan 2, 3:20am
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Yes
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marillaraina
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Jan 2, 4:08am
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The non-reader reaction will be interesting
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Kimtc
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Jan 2, 5:03am
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Not sure that is true, is it?
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DanielLB
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Jan 1, 9:02am
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Ah, that is an interesting theory I must say!. The thing is of course.. *book spoilers*
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Xanaseb
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Jan 1, 1:16pm
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Grouping
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carrioncrow
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Jan 1, 2:49pm
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Practical problem perhaps?
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glor
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Jan 1, 5:50pm
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Agree with this +1//
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Rostron2
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Jan 1, 7:02pm
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Welcome to tORN!
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Owain
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Jan 2, 5:13am
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Patience...
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Eleniel
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Jan 2, 8:38am
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