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The Hobbit almost at 700 Million!
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fmaximus
Rivendell


Dec 31 2012, 9:11pm

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I think this quote sums it up nicely ... [In reply to] Can't Post

"The public is the only critic whose opinion is worth anything at all."
Mark Twain


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 31 2012, 9:15pm

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But then how can you trust Twain's opinion? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 31 2012, 9:19pm

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I'm irked by the popularity of GONE WITH THE WIND. [In reply to] Can't Post

Adjusted for inflation, that's one of the highest-grossing films of all time, and it's bad. Who wouldn't be bothered by seeing bad works succeed while good works are overlooked?

But I'm not sure how critics who panned The Hobbit, since most reviews appeared on the opening day, could have been irked by a success it hadn't yet achieved.

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fmaximus
Rivendell


Dec 31 2012, 9:27pm

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in life in general you can't ... [In reply to] Can't Post

trust Twains opinion - but when it comes to making movies you definately can.
I'm sure if you talk to most directors they would agree - unless they don't care if their film makes money or not.


(This post was edited by fmaximus on Dec 31 2012, 9:28pm)


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 31 2012, 9:36pm

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So if everyone hates my favorite movie, I should hate it too? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Bladerunner
Gondor


Dec 31 2012, 9:45pm

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I think you misinterpreted my comment..... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm saying that I suspect that the success of the film even after they panned it, is what may be irksome to the most ardent haters of the film. It may have bothered one critic in particular so much that he had to place it on his worst films of 2012 list for spite.

Again, this is my opinion, and I get that you disagree with it....


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But I'm not sure how critics who panned The Hobbit, since most reviews appeared on the opening day, could have been irked by a success it hadn't yet achieved.





MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Dec 31 2012, 9:58pm

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it has a high replay value [In reply to] Can't Post

i've seen it 4 times, each time was better and better!


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty, oh will you please take me home!!


Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 31 2012, 10:15pm

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Gone with the Wind [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't understand the love for it either. I recently watched it for the first time (and probably only time), and could not for the life of me figure out why people rave about it. It was overly long. The main character was a terrible person. The romance was ridiculous. And it ends with Scarlet going back to Tara. Uh, didn't she already try that? Or did I completely miss something?

I don't know, but I thought it was not very good, and definitely not the classic I was led to believe it was.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 31 2012, 10:17pm

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Yeah, NOW it's doing fine internationally, but domestic is still at 220 million... [In reply to] Can't Post

Still not great in North America. RotK did almost 400 mill at the domestic BO.

Weirdly, however, TH had a second-week slump then picked up Christmas week. Never heard of a film having a better third week than second week.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 31 2012, 10:19pm

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But like you say, it was Christmas holidays [In reply to] Can't Post

Not really that hard to see why it made more. It's popular right now, and more people had a chance to see it over the holiday. What with being off work, and school, and seeing it in different formats, it's not at all surprising (at least not to me).

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 31 2012, 10:22pm

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Didn't happen with any of the LotR's. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 31 2012, 10:26pm

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Didn't have multiple formats... [In reply to] Can't Post

And new technology with 3D which audiences seem to eat up (e.g. AVATAR).

It's just a thought.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 31 2012, 10:29pm

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Still weird, especially given mixed reviews and reactions. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 31 2012, 10:29pm

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Maybe GWTW is a case of the critics being right and the public being wrong? [In reply to] Can't Post

Actually no. The film was a critical success when released. But it almost never appears on the all-time-best lists of critics nowadays, while some other films from the 1930s do.

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Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 31 2012, 10:31pm

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I think curiosity trumps reviews. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 31 2012, 10:33pm

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Interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

that critics don't hold it in the same esteem as the public, but then, most films aren't critical and public successes. Most of the movies that audiences love nowadays are the actiony popcorn flicks.

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 31 2012, 10:34pm

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The people who were that curious about it would have seen it the first or second week. It's wierd. 8) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Ardamírë
Valinor


Dec 31 2012, 10:36pm

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It might we weird as in unusual [In reply to] Can't Post

and to that I'd agree. But I definitely think it's explainable (and obviously not impossible).

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall and the bells in the steeple, too.
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird is popping out to say coo-coo (coo-coo, coo-coo).


DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 31 2012, 10:36pm

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Not true [In reply to] Can't Post

I have curious friends and family that haven't yet seen it. Christmas can be a busy time - they haven't seen it yet because they are too busy,

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DanielLB
Immortal


Dec 31 2012, 10:37pm

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So.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Next time an American complains the film isn't meeting box office expectations ...

...

EvilTongue

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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 31 2012, 10:42pm

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Nope, it's weird. WIERD. Thanks. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Dec 31 2012, 10:44pm)


shadowdog
Rohan

Dec 31 2012, 10:43pm

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Patience [In reply to] Can't Post

That is 220 million in 17 days; not its total domestic gross.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Dec 31 2012, 10:43pm

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Too bad the film wasn't better. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Dec 31 2012, 10:45pm)


JWPlatt
Grey Havens


Dec 31 2012, 10:44pm

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Time [In reply to] Can't Post

You don't provide a comparative time frame.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Dec 31 2012, 10:49pm

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Hobbit's 3rd weekend wasn't better than its 2nd in terms of gross. [In reply to] Can't Post

As for the good hold, Hobbit had a much better 3rd weekend drop because its 3rd weekend was the post Christmas weekend when holidays are in full swing. The LOTRs had the post Christmas weekend on their 2nd weekend, which is why their 2nd weekend drops were so good.

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