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Question about the 3D (any framerate) versions if anyone could answer?

QuackingTroll
Valinor


Dec 31 2012, 12:59am

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Question about the 3D (any framerate) versions if anyone could answer? Can't Post

I hope you understand when I say that green-screened scenes in movies typically feel claustrophobic. You can somehow sense that characters are on a set, despite seeing a huge vista behind them. The Hobbit's battle sequences, for instance feel very tight and there's quite a difference when we go from a CGI environment to a real-life one. Everything appears to open-up a lot more and feel more natural and wide.

Some good examples are Captain America or Sky Captain and the world of Tomorrow, (both have excessive use of green-screen) where you can have a huge wide-shot of an open area, but somehow it just feels like a contained space.

Providing you understand what I mean by this? My question is: Does the added depth of 3D help to open up this claustrophobia? Does the 3D version feel "bigger" if you like? Has anyone noticed this problem, or is it just a me thing?

Thanks!


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Joe-Mathews
Rivendell


Dec 31 2012, 3:23am

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Me too. [In reply to] Can't Post

I feel it too. You can tell when a small studio shot is superimposed in front of a wide landscape in 2D or 3D. But I think it has more to do with focus and perspective. The foreground shot is always in a little different than the background. 3D seems to amplify the difference.

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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea

Dec 31 2012, 3:57am

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I think it's more a lighting thing. [In reply to] Can't Post

This problem's been around forever. Studio lighting is almost never good enough to match outdoor natural light, and the studio foreground will clash with the "outdoor" background. It always looks best when scenes that require either special effect or real outdoor backgrounds are shot outside in front of a green screen and not in the studio. PJ usually gets this right, but not always, and i'm not sure why. I just watched King Kong tonight on TNT and for the most part they did a great job. And the LotR trilogy looks good most of the time (Pelennor Fields), though if you look at the Dead Marshes, or Frodo and Sam's trek across Mordor, you can see that some shots were definitely shot outdoors, and some were obviously shot in the studio. The studio can look fine in night scenes, or in overcast scenes, or in a dark forest, but bright, sunny scenes shot in the studio always catch the eye.

As for how 3D affects this, i wouldn't know as i've never seen a modern 3D film. Curious as to what those that have have to say though.

 
 

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