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Not sure what you mean

Lightice
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Dec 30 2012, 8:54pm


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I finally saw the movie last night, in 24 fps 2D. (I can't watch 3D as far as I know, so most likely not going to be seeing any other version.) A few CGI-heavy scenes looked a bit "off" to me; basically the effect I would imagine if I saw a 48 FPS scene -- everything moving a bit too fluidly, I guess. Did you notice this in the 24 version? Was it present at 48 also? I'm wondering if it's an artifact of being designed/filmed at 48 FPS and being converted to 24 after the fact, because it's not something I've noticed in a movie before, even in something else CGI-heavy like the Star Wars prequels or whatever. .


What does "too fluid" mean, for example? How can movement be too fluid? Blur has always been an annoyance for me in films, not a desirable quality. CG creations don't always move in natural manner, but that has nothing to do with the number of shot frames and everything with the animation technology.

Personally, I did not notice a major difference between the 24fps and 48fps 3D experiences, at all. The only benefit of the latter was the reduced motion blur which I appreciated, but it wasn't so big a problem with 24fps that it would have bothered by viewing experience that much, anyway. I had to consciously pay attention to really notice the difference, most of the time. I most certainly didn't get a "soap opera" vibe from it like some people apparently did. It looked like a blockbuster film both times -- the same blockbuster film with a minor difference in terms of motion blur. A small tweak in the visual style, not a major difference either for good or bad.

Seriously, the whole debate has gone completely overboard. The real difference between the framerates is miniscule to the naked eye, neither the visual revolution that PJ promised or the soap opera disaster that sensationalist critics are complaining about.

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Q for those who have seen both 24 and 48 versions acheron Send a private message to acheron Dec 30 2012, 6:10pm
    In all honesty, after seeing the IMAX HFR 3D version last night Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Dec 30 2012, 6:20pm
        Same for me Lily Fairbairn Send a private message to Lily Fairbairn Dec 30 2012, 6:26pm
    Which scenes do you mean? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 6:20pm
        I'll let you know when I see it again :) acheron Send a private message to acheron Dec 31 2012, 2:28am
    I don't recall any problems with 24fps 2D... Carcharoth Send a private message to Carcharoth Dec 30 2012, 7:40pm
    I noticed a few things guitarzankansasfan Send a private message to guitarzankansasfan Dec 30 2012, 7:43pm
        I would say that sums up my experience, too.. Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Dec 30 2012, 11:11pm
    Not sure what you mean Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Dec 30 2012, 8:54pm
        We're in the same boat here... sharpened_graphite Send a private message to sharpened_graphite Dec 30 2012, 9:32pm
            Agreed. Joe-Mathews Send a private message to Joe-Mathews Dec 30 2012, 9:49pm
                I can say for certain that I didn't like the 3D... sharpened_graphite Send a private message to sharpened_graphite Dec 30 2012, 10:24pm
        We could go round in circles .... ;-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 9:46pm
    I didn't like the high frame rate Randraug Send a private message to Randraug Dec 31 2012, 2:46am
    Seen both formats Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Dec 31 2012, 4:30am
        Location JWPlatt Dec 31 2012, 5:51am
            where you sit depends on several things Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Dec 31 2012, 3:52pm

 
 
 

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