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I noticed a few things


Dec 30 2012, 7:43pm

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I watched 24 fps 2D first and then the week after that I watched it in 48 fps 3D. When I watched it in 24 fps I noticed that there were some shots, like the aerial shot flying over Dale toward the Lonely Mountain, with big sweeping movement that were designed for 48 FPS that did not translate well. There was some kind of natural motion blur or whatever happens with film that did not happen in the RED epic camera, and the jittery movement in 24 fps made it seem like I was seeing double in that scene.

It was very disappointing to have that happen in the opening shots of the film, and it made it look like they had put so much effort into making the 48 fps master look good, that they had neglected the 24 fps version and failed to address conversion issues in some places.

However, aside from those few scenes, I found that most of the film was very watchable and enjoyable.

When it came to watching the 48 fps version, I would get a different feel from different scenes. Sometimes I felt like I was watching a big budget TV miniseries. Sometimes it felt like theater in the round. Sometimes I just didn't notice.

What really distracted me was the 3D. The absolutely lifelike realism had a problematic side effect: I found myself wanting to see things in the background like I would in a theater, but I could not because the camera was focused on what was in the foreground, leaving the things I wanted to see in the background out of focus in a way that felt unrealistic in the otherwise realistic world on the screen. There were so many beautiful high resolution details on the screen that I had trouble paying attention to the big picture.

This made the 3D a terrible distraction, and I really only enjoyed it in the "theme park ride" scenes like falling down into Goblin town, or the really action-heavy battle scenes where it made it easier to see who was hitting what from where.

Otherwise I found myself closing one eye and trying to watch it that way for a minute or two, and wishing they had made a 48 fps version in 2D so that I could see the more lifelike motion without the distraction of the 3D.

Oddly enough, I had never noticed this tendency in 24 fps 3d films I had seen such as Tron: Legacy and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader.

There was a man.
There was a lady.
There was a Dragon Lord.

(This post was edited by guitarzankansasfan on Dec 30 2012, 7:53pm)

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Q for those who have seen both 24 and 48 versions acheron Send a private message to acheron Dec 30 2012, 6:10pm
    In all honesty, after seeing the IMAX HFR 3D version last night Eruonen Send a private message to Eruonen Dec 30 2012, 6:20pm
        Same for me Lily Fairbairn Send a private message to Lily Fairbairn Dec 30 2012, 6:26pm
    Which scenes do you mean? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 6:20pm
        I'll let you know when I see it again :) acheron Send a private message to acheron Dec 31 2012, 2:28am
    I don't recall any problems with 24fps 2D... Carcharoth Send a private message to Carcharoth Dec 30 2012, 7:40pm
    I noticed a few things guitarzankansasfan Send a private message to guitarzankansasfan Dec 30 2012, 7:43pm
        I would say that sums up my experience, too.. Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Dec 30 2012, 11:11pm
    Not sure what you mean Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Dec 30 2012, 8:54pm
        We're in the same boat here... sharpened_graphite Send a private message to sharpened_graphite Dec 30 2012, 9:32pm
            Agreed. Joe-Mathews Send a private message to Joe-Mathews Dec 30 2012, 9:49pm
                I can say for certain that I didn't like the 3D... sharpened_graphite Send a private message to sharpened_graphite Dec 30 2012, 10:24pm
        We could go round in circles .... ;-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Dec 30 2012, 9:46pm
    I didn't like the high frame rate Randraug Send a private message to Randraug Dec 31 2012, 2:46am
    Seen both formats Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Dec 31 2012, 4:30am
        Location JWPlatt Dec 31 2012, 5:51am
            where you sit depends on several things Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Dec 31 2012, 3:52pm


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